[Brillopad]

The latest two suspects arrested over the Parsons Green bombing are asylum seekers.

I would never have guessed.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The latest two suspects arrested over the Parsons Green bombing are asylum seekers.

I would never have guessed.

why did the government let them slip through the net

[Brillopad]

The two latest suspects arrested over the Parsons' Green bombing are asylum seekers.

Did we really expect otherwise?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The two latest suspects arrested over the Parsons' Green bombing are asylum seekers.

Did we really expect otherwise?

well it wasn't going to happen, people were getting hysterical thinking they could slip though like this yadda yadda yadda ..who has egg on their face now I wish Kirk was here to see that what he was saying was right all along.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

well it wasn't going to happen, people were getting hysterical thinking they could slip though like this yadda yadda yadda ..who has egg on their face now I wish Kirk was here to see that what he was saying was right all along.

yep he did warn everyone

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cherie

well it wasn't going to happen, people were getting hysterical thinking they could slip though like this yadda yadda yadda ..who has egg on their face now I wish Kirk was here to see that what he was saying was right all along.

Exactly Cherry! Would like to see him back and listen to his words of wisdom again. Can't say I blame him for not wanting to though. Wrong side of the track so to speak. Too much hassle.

An article in the paper regarding another suspect actually stated that one resident said "he was a nice guy, he was very softly spoken. He used to condemn terrorism in front of my husband". Where have we heard that before?

[Cherie]

I expect the next thing we will hear is they aren't really asylum seekers, just another media slur

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Exactly Cherry! Would like to see him back and listen to his words of wisdom again. Can't say I blame him for not wanting to though. Wrong side of the track so to speak. Too much hassle.

An article in the paper regarding another suspect actually stated that one resident said "he was a nice guy, he was very softly spoken. He used to condemn terrorism in front of my husband". Where have we heard that before?

Kirk and me were friends on here so I'd love to see him back. Whilst we had opposing opinions, he really did get his teeth into a discussion. He would often look at an opposing post and go off and do his research before coming back here and agreeing that opposing opinion was in fact correct.

We could go at it hammer and tongue on the forums and shake hands in pm. I couldn't help but respect him regardless of our differing views.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

, he really did get his teeth into a discussion. He would often look at an opposing post and go off and do his research before coming back here and agreeing that opposing opinion was in fact correct.

I agree. I feel as if many right-leaning posts recently are very emotionally-charged, and I worked out a while back that you cant really respond to sheer-emotion with any form of reasoning, its just two different languages...
But Kirk would post with more logic and reasoning which made the subforum more interesting than what it is now.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Kirk and me were friends on here so I'd love to see him back. Whilst we had opposing opinions, he really did get his teeth into a discussion. He would often look at an opposing post and go off and do his research before coming back here and agreeing that opposing opinion was in fact correct.

We could go at it hammer and tongue on the forums and shake hands in pm. I couldn't help but respect him regardless of our differing views.

I agree and in fact I think comparing ol' Kirk to the bile that's been spewed on here since he left is actually quite offensive to him, being honest. He got a little heated a times but his posts were well thought out and logical, and he had a sense of humour.

So no you can't compare Kirk to the more recent "SD's right wing". It's like comparing a grumpy right-leaning University professor to... err... I don't know. Someone spinning in circles just.. flailing their arms and gnashing their teeth... and spitting racist vomit everywhere... and screeching a terrible screech that curdles the blood and sucks the testicles right up into the abdomen. No offense liek.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

well it wasn't going to happen, people were getting hysterical thinking they could slip though like this yadda yadda yadda ..who has egg on their face now I wish Kirk was here to see that what he was saying was right all along.

Careful, you're sounding smug and that's unpleasant under the circumstances.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Careful, you're sounding smug and that's unpleasant under the circumstances.

Hardly, just being realistic

[Tom4784]

Yes, let's judge an entire section of people with incomparable morals and situations just because we are scared of things that aren't white and/or British.

The only people that should face condemnation for terrorism are the terrorists who actually commit the crimes, to use the fact that two terrorists happened to be Asylum Seekers to make blanket statements against an incomparably diverse group of people is just sad.

Would the same standard apply to white people too? Would it be okay to suggest that anyone of a Right Wing persuasion should be viewed with suspicion and fear because of the actions of Thomas Mair? I'm guessing the answer is no to that....

You can't judge thousands of people for the actions of two.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yes, let's judge an entire section of people with incomparable morals and situations just because we are scared of things that aren't white and/or British.

The only people that should face condemnation for terrorism are the terrorists who actually commit the crimes, to use the fact that two terrorists happened to be Asylum Seekers to make blanket statements against an incomparably diverse group of people is just sad.

Would the same standard apply to white people too? Would it be okay to suggest that anyone of a Right Wing persuasion should be viewed with suspicion and fear because of the actions of Thomas Mair? I'm guessing the answer is no to that....

You can't judge thousands of people for the actions of two.

It's considerably more than two in this incident alone, nevermind the other incidents. Is that another diversion tactic?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It's considerably more than two in this incident alone, nevermind the other incidents. Is that another diversion tactic?

It's common sense. You would not want to be seen as a representation of the extreme worst of your own demographic so why do you think it's okay to paint in broad strokes when it comes to races/religions/nationalities you hate?

If I was to take the statements you make and change the words so that they represent people of a right wing mindset you would flip your **** yet you are okay with doing exactly that to people who don't happen to be white.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's common sense. You would not want to be seen as a representation of the extreme worst of your own demographic so why do you think it's okay to paint in broad strokes when it comes to races/religions/nationalities you hate?

If I was to take the statements you make and change the words so that they represent people of a right wing mindset you would flip your **** yet you are okay with doing exactly that to people who don't happen to be white.

You are the one who is colour obsessed. It has far more to do with culture and religion but as skin colour is the more visual that is what you focus on. It demonstrates an inability to see past colour and the other issues involved. Life is not black and white - but you take that expression quite literally!

[user104658]

Who ever said that it was impossible that terrorists could pose as asylum seekers? Rewriting history in order to pat yourselves on the back. Pretty sad .

The point always was - and still is - that there being a possibility that people will abuse the system is not justification for throwing all genuine asylum seekers under the bus. What's so hard to understand about that?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Who ever said that it was impossible that terrorists could pose as asylum seekers? Rewriting history in order to pat yourselves on the back. Pretty sad .

Do you honestly expect any different at this point?

People who are scared and hateful will rewrite reality in a way that works for their confirmation bias.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Do you honestly expect any different at this point?

People who are scared and hateful will rewrite reality in a way that works for their confirmation bias.

nah mate you have egg on your face because you said it was rubbish and that the open borders policy Germany adopted was great.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

nah mate you have egg on your face because you said it was rubbish and that the open borders policy Germany adopted was great.

How about you stop blatantly making **** up to suit your argument? I doubt that I've ever commentated on Germany's open door policy so you can stop with your lies right there.

Stick to the facts, the ACTUAL facts, not the ones conjured up by your imagination.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

How about you stop blatantly making **** up to suit your argument? I doubt that I've ever commentated on Germany's open door policy so you can stop with your lies right there.

Stick to the facts, the ACTUAL facts, not the ones conjured up by your imagination.

will you stick to facts, you continually accuse people of being afraid of brown people when you know nothing about them? not keen on being accused are you...diddums

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Who ever said that it was impossible that terrorists could pose as asylum seekers? Rewriting history in order to pat yourselves on the back. Pretty sad .

The point always was - and still is - that there being a possibility that people will abuse the system is not justification for throwing all genuine asylum seekers under the bus. What's so hard to understand about that?

No that was never said, Kirk was always adamant he was speaking about the few but people like you continued to pretend not to understand and tarred him with the racist brush, just as you are doing here now.....what do you find so hard to understand about vetting and giving sanctuary to genuine refugees, you were one of the main proponents in let all the Calais lot come over, and I can find you posts if you really need me to

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

you were one of the main proponents in let all the Calais lot come over, and I can find you posts if you really need me to

Be my guest Cherie.

I got on fine with Kirk for the mostpart and the only time I ever called him racist was when he stated that people from the middle east are genetically predisposed to violence and that war is "in their blood". But by all means, if you can find these other posts where I said that we should "let all the Calais lot come over", then I suggest you do so before making false accusations.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Be my guest Cherie.

I got on fine with Kirk for the mostpart and the only time I ever called him racist was when he stated that people from the middle east are genetically predisposed to violence and that war is "in their blood". But by all means, if you can find these other posts where I said that we should "let all the Calais lot come over", then I suggest you do so before making false accusations.

You make plenty false accusations like accusing everyone who has a different opinion to you of being afraid of brown people, not nice is it being falsely accused, I can find those posts though unless of course they are deleted beforehand.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You make plenty false accusations like accusing everyone who has a different opinion to you of being afraid of brown people, not nice is it being falsely accused, I can find those posts though unless of course they are deleted beforehand.

I don't accuse "people who have a different opinion to me" of "being afraid of brown people" but you're free to find a post supporting that suggestion too, Cherie, though I know searching is probably difficult with such deep chips on your shoulders?

I have neither the time nor the inclination to go back through my posts deleting them so, as I said, go for it. Have fun; my posts are usually excellent so I can only imagine that reading through them will make for a fun-filled, if fruitless (because you won't find what you're looking for) - afternoon.

To be clear; what we're looking for is a post that is evidence that; "you were one of the main proponents in let all the Calais lot come over".

Go go go.