[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

are you seriously asking this? really? when have white people ever been oppressed by black people, ever? Black face was used by white people to mock and spread racial stereotypes, there's a history there that isn't there the other way around, that's why its offensive to black people, am i really explaining this to you?

Women have been and still are oppressed in many societies but we don’t make a fuss about men dressing as women. Nothing stereotypical or mocking about drag queens then. That is not only about history but about an unchallenged here and now. I am calling out those that have such blatant double standards.

So continue to explain if you feel the need.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Women have been and still are oppressed in many societies but we don’t make a fuss about men dressing as women. Nothing stereotypical or mocking about drag queens then. That is not only about history but about an unchallenged here and now. I am calling out those that have such blatant double standards.

So continue to explain if you feel the need.

I would stick to the topic or start a thread to discuss the oppression of women I will be glad to discuss that at length.

As it stand this is coming across a you simply hijacking this thread to suit your agenda.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I would stick to the topic or start a thread to discuss the oppression of women I will be glad to discuss that at length.

As it stand this is coming across a you simply hijacking this thread to suit your agenda.

And your thinking is always right of course. Think away.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

And your thinking is always right of course. Think away.

Well yes naturally but that's off topic too isn't it?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well yes naturally but that's off topic too isn't it?

As valid comparisons, or lack of, are relevant to point out double standards in any such discussions therefore render your comments invalid in my opinion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

As valid comparisons, or lack of, are relevant to point out double standards in any such discussions therefore render your comments invalid in my opinion.

Your initial presumption that this is a generational issue is this your example of fair and balanced view of the issue?
They rendered your comments invalid for me even before you flew of on your next tangent to be honest brillo.
Do you have a view on the actual topic at hand, while you're here?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Your initial presumption that this is a generational issue is this your example of fair and balanced view of the issue?
They rendered your comments invalid for me even before you flew of on your next tangent to be honest brillo.
Do you have a view on the actual topic at hand, while you're here?

I have previously expressed it. I see nothing wrong with it especially when other suppressed groups are able to get a bit of perspective and let more minor things go over their heads.

I am usually suspicious of those that make a huge fuss about something small and question their motives for doing so - it smacks of control.

And as has been mentioned previously in several threads the constant over-reactions waters down more serious issues - rather like the boy that cried wolf. In the long-term it can have a harmful effect and for those who can’t see that - again I question their motives.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well yes naturally but that's off topic too isn't it?

So is that post by you and so is this post by me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I have previously expressed it. I see nothing wrong with it especially when other suppressed groups are able to get a bit of perspective and let more minor things go over their heads.

I am usually suspicious of those that make a huge fuss about something small and question their motives for doing so - it smacks of control.

And as has been mentioned previously in several threads the constant over-reactions waters down more serious issues - rather like the boy that cried wolf. In the long-term it can have a harmful effect and for those who can’t see that - again I question their motives.

Who is this suppressed group?
Why do you consider it 'something small'?, it may not be a serious issue to you, yet you don't speak for everyone.
What are your motives for wanting to detract from this issue?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who is this suppressed group?
Why do you consider it 'something small'?, it may not be a serious issue to you, yet you don't speak for everyone.
What are your motives for wanting to detract from this issue?

Er, women. We put up with more minor things constantly, for instance sexist jokes, as long as they don’t go too far. We don’t generally make such a fuss about every little thing as I believe we are not so agenda driven in our motives. There are always exceptions, but women have, and still do, put up with a lot over the years.

I have often drawn attention to how one ism gets more ‘attention’ on here than others as such comparisons are relevant when pointing out double standards.

[user104658]

I don't think sexism is much of a problem on here, though, not like race issues are, so that's probably why it comes up less? I can only think of one member who was clearly sexist and he's now been permanently banned for that. Well... OK... There's also arista but he appears to be MIA too (and I don't think anyone took much of what he said seriously anyway).

Obviously, equality of the sexes is still a major issue globally but no one disagrees about that so there's not as much to discuss. I think it's pretty much that simple.

There's no one, or very few people, here arguing that sexism is OK or being sexist on the forum... In fact I'd say TiBB is pretty "gender blind" and that's one of the major positives of the site.

[user104658]

The point is, really, that sexism is not what this thread is about and so, even if the point is valid, posting about it here seems designed to detract from the thread topic more than anything else? Even if you're right, and one issue does get more attention than the other, that has nothing to do with the topic of this particular thread... It's a totally different discussion that could have its own thread.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Women have been and still are oppressed in many societies but we don’t make a fuss about men dressing as women. Nothing stereotypical or mocking about drag queens then. That is not only about history but about an unchallenged here and now. I am calling out those that have such blatant double standards.

So continue to explain if you feel the need.

Well said Brillo !!

[arista]

Nice to see you Back
CHUFF

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Nice to see you Back
CHUFF

Hiya just reading through this thread, and my conclusion is people need to stop being so petty, stop sitting at computer or watching tv waiting to pounce on a bit of bloody humour, lighten up, get a grip and a bloody life ,miserable set of buggers without a sense of humour ,no one can see a joke now, what a miserable world we live in when people sit waiting to pounch on a bit of fun ,so glad my youth was spent in the none PC mad world

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Dressing as one is fine. Blackface isn't. /Thread

The thread really should have ended here tbh.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Hiya just reading through this thread, and my conclusion is people need to stop being so petty, stop sitting at computer or watching tv waiting to pounce on a bit of bloody humour, lighten up, get a grip and a bloody life ,miserable set of buggers without a sense of humour ,no one can see a joke now, what a miserable world we live in when people sit waiting to pounch on a bit of fun ,so glad my youth was spent in the none PC mad world

You find blackface funny?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You find blackface funny?

Remind me never to have a night out with you fgs

[Tom4784]

Is that a yes?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Is that a yes?

I don't know, you tell me

[Macie Lightfoot]

I love the implication that nights out with chuff involve blackface never change hun!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I don't know, you tell me

I'd assume so, since you seemed to downplay it as a joke in that post and that people who were offended by blackface should 'stop being so petty' and 'lighten up' (ooop at that choice of words).

Who are you to decide what offends people or not? Especially considering that, as a white person, it's ludicrous for you to decide and dictate what might be offensive to someone of a different ethnicity.

Perhaps you should take a look into the history of Blackface, maybe then you'll understand why it's so offensive.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I love the implication that nights out with chuff involve blackface never change hun!

I will never,ever change Macie ..... nothing like having a good sense of humour and remembering we are only here for a short time so enjoy life and LAUGH a lot, God Im so glad Im not a miserable PC freak who's life revolves around being a miserable cow

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'd assume so, since you seemed to downplay it as a joke in that post and that people who were offended by blackface should 'stop being so petty' and 'lighten up' (ooop at that choice of words).

Who are you to decide what offends people or not? Especially considering that, as a white person, it's ludicrous for you to decide and dictate what might be offensive to someone of a different ethnicity.

Perhaps you should take a look into the history of Blackface, maybe then you'll understand why it's so offensive.

And vica versa

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And vica versa

That makes no sense since I'm not telling anyone that they should or shouldn't be offended while you are telling people that they shouldn't be.

Context shouldn't be a difficult concept to understand, Chuff.