[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you need a hook first..

Maggots Or worms ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

what if you get infracted for baiting and the reason for the infraction is actually in a baiting tone?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what is you get infracted for baiting and the reason for the infraction is actually in a baiting tone?

[Vicky.]

I am fairly sure your suggestion would never happen Jack. Also members may say they want that, but in reality what most people want is for them to be able to post what they like, and people they don't like be banned for random crap. So people would be all for no rules, but then someone would call them a twat and they would want that dealt with. I reckon thats how it would go anyway

I could be persuaded to be on side for no rules (as such) in the serious debates forum though. We do tend to give a bit more leeway in that section due to the nature of the discussions anyway though.

Mods have actually seriously considered going on a complete strike for a day or so..a couple of years ago when everyone was moaning about moderation and how we either did nothing at all, or were biased against them and let everyone else away with everything (nothing changes ). To see how many members really like no rules and basically an unmoderated forum. Also obviously with no modding to allow the spambots that we get all the time to run wild, the multis, the really disgusting posts..all of it. Can't remember why we decided not to do this, I do remember talking about it and being up for it and thinking it would be a decent 'experiment' We did a kind of version of this a while ago..when half the forum really hated the other half. We basically left a HUGE argument to run its course without intervening at all and no bans/infractions given. The amount of people who complained about 'the other side' getting away with it (ignoring that pretty much every member that night broke a rule) was insane .

[James]

Originally Posted by Smithy

On top of that, I’m not too sure why there is such secrecy around infractions, thinking about it more it seems that the less secrecy around it the less people can complain because it’s there for everyone to see, surely if everyone could see who got infracted for what and how many points were handed out, nobody could ever claim it was unfair because everyone could see it (this idea has only just come to me now it wasn’t an original part of the thread but yes let’s do an infraction list similar to a ban list), so for example if member A calls member B a twat and gets a one point infraction and then member C calls member B a silly billy and gets a 5 point infraction, everyone could see the blatant bias in the modding.

It was changed so that the points are secret - it used to be that people saw the points level. People would just compare infractions points levels for infractions and complain even more.

It's impossible to be 100% consistent with moderating at that micro-level.

i’m assuming ever mod sees the messages sent to the tibb staff robot?

No, I look at most (I think) of them. 95% of the time no ever accepts they've done anything wrong - as was the case with the appeals forum - as some people are rude, so I generally it's not worth sharing them. There's not much point responding either, it would just be time-wasting, and going around in circles.

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I don't know, I've found it relatively easy to avoid receiving infractions. If you think there's a chance you're going to be infracted for saying something then just don't say it. That's all I can say really.

It's very easy to avoid infractions. If I was just a member on here I wouldn't be getting infractions.

[Crimson Dynamo]

what if a male member wants to have a female multi like Shane J and Courtney, would not allowing that be a hate crimeophobia?

i am asking for a friend

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what if a male member wants to have a female multi like Shane J and Courtney, would not allowing that be a hate crimeophobia?

i am asking for a friend

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what if a male member wants to have a female multi like Shane J and Courtney, would not allowing that be a hate crimeophobia?

i am asking for a friend

I'll be looking out for new member called LeatherStrumpet

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'll be looking out for new member called LeatherStrumpet

ElleT

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

ElleT

Much more classy

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what if a male member wants to have a female multi like Shane J and Courtney, would not allowing that be a hate crimeophobia?

i am asking for a friend

[Maru]

Nah, leave the system as it is. People need to learn to stop responding to simple baits and just use ignore. It's difficult enough to mod a board as clique-y as TiBB... every deletion/mod I think offends one of each of those groups in one way or another and it always seems to come back to over-modding.

The thing I would suggest instead that would help everyone equally, that mods make it a point to post reminders where the discussion is going off-topic for those users to get back to the original OP. If it is a reasonable transition, either lock the thread or split those posts to another one entirely (usually lock first, split, reopen, etc). This will encourage new thread creation and will also make people feel safer about posting true comments, rather than being concerned they will be ****-posted five minutes later for simply having a discussion...

I'm sure quite a bit of it is on purpose, but TiBB threads almost never stay on-topic and this enables the same 6 people to come in with their same pet peeves to derail the discussion and take it a totally different direction. This is a vast majority of where the **** posts come from.

So it's no surprise that there's only the same 3-4 topics of conversation across the entire board, because this rule is not being upheld.

And you know, some threads are just meant for a humane death.. I think give it a page or two to fall apart and when it's getting stupid, lock dat sh*t tight.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Maru

Nah, leave the system as it is. People need to learn to stop responding to simple baits and just use ignore. It's difficult enough to mod a board as clique-y as TiBB... every deletion/mod I think offends one of each of those groups in one way or another and it always seems to come back to over-modding.

The thing I would suggest instead that would help everyone equally, that mods make it a point to post reminders where the discussion is going off-topic for those users to get back to the original OP. If it is a reasonable transition, either lock the thread or split those posts to another one entirely (usually lock first, split, reopen, etc). This will encourage new thread creation and will also make people feel safer about posting true comments, rather than being concerned they will be ****-posted five minutes later for simply having a discussion...

I'm sure quite a bit of it is on purpose, but TiBB threads almost never stay on-topic and this enables the same 6 people to come in with their same pet peeves to derail the discussion and take it a totally different direction. This is a vast majority of where the **** posts come from.

So it's no surprise that there's only the same 3-4 topics of conversation across the entire board, because this rule is not being upheld.

And you know, some threads are just meant for a humane death.. I think give it a page or two to fall apart and when it's getting stupid, lock dat sh*t tight.

Yes, this kind of thing really applies in SDs more than any other section, we do need to do something about the conversations always ending up back to the same could of topics (Jeremy Corbyn, Trump etc) We've actually been discussing this issue recently so we are hoping to get to some sort of a solution for it

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes, this kind of thing really applies in SDs more than any other section, we do need to do something about the conversations always ending up back to the same could of topics (Jeremy Corbyn, Trump etc) We've actually been discussing this issue recently so we are hoping to get to some sort of a solution for it

Yeah, I think give the threads back to the OP and create a relatively strong on-topic rule. That way everyone can have whatever conversation they want without it being derailed and the sh*t posts would stay in the more controversial topics (like religion), gives the average user much more breathing room I think to spread their legs instead of being sucked into endless arguments all over the board about the same ol' topics...

I actually think it helps to spot stealth trolls faster too (as a mod) since it is much more difficult to bait when you have to adhere to the original topic itself. Pesky rules.

[thesheriff443]

The truth was telling lies about being in a relationship to continue his propaganda, I feel sorry for him to be honest.

[thesheriff443]

On the forum chuff and dezzy are the two members who's strong opinions devide the forum, pyramid was another member who did it as well, that's a compliment not a dig.