[LukeB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes i have

the lady employee called the police


simple as that

is that all the evidence you got? oh dear. Anyone can ring the police over anything. You wasn't there and don't know what happened.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes i have

the lady employee called the police


simple as that

The boss has apologised for her actions.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

They were standing up for their right to be in the shop, they had done no wrong to be asked to leave. So again, do you have proof they had a bad attitude or are you just presuming?

The fact the boss of the chain in question has said sorry speaks volumes.

They had no rights to use the toilet as they were not customers ,they had no right to plonk themselves down without being a customer ,the boss has said sorry because maybe his back was against the wall with idiots shouting racism

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

They had no rights to use the toilet as they were not customers ,they had no right to plonk themselves down without being a customer ,the boss has said sorry because maybe his back was against the wall with idiots shouting racism

other people who weren't buying anything, who happened to be white, were also sitting there

they were even questioning it themselves

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

They had no rights to use the toilet as they were not customers ,they had no right to plonk themselves down without being a customer ,the boss has said sorry because maybe his back was against the wall with idiots shouting racism

They were told not to use the toilets and didn't. If you look online there is no starbucks policy they can refuse you a seat. White customers in the shop were also sitting down without a drink too were the police called on them too?

Again you are presuming the boss has said sorry because he was 'against a wall' any proof of that, Chuff?

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by montblanc

i'm confused at a few of the people in this thread saying that they were 'dodgy' or had 'bad attitudes'

the people around them were very confused as to why they were being arrested so surely if they were any of those things, the bystanders wouldn't be so adamant in displaying how unfortunate their arrest was

Yeah it's interesting. Nowhere in the article does it state the reason the police were called, or whether these two men were rude to staff/other customers. Witnesses state that they had done nothing wrong, Starbucks are apologising and have said that the police shouldn't have been called. Proof enough, but people are still trying to make out as though these men have done something wrong. Happens all the time.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Yeah it's interesting. Nowhere in the article does it state the reason the police were called, or whether these two men were rude to staff/other customers. Witnesses state that they had done nothing wrong, Starbucks are apologising and have said that the police shouldn't have been called. Proof enough, but people are still trying to make out as though these men have done something wrong. Happens all the time.

Easier to shoe-horn recent news stories into their anti-police bashing, "anti-PC" agenda than it is to read the specifics of what happened, I guess.

[Amy Jade]

If they two guys were causing trouble and being rude I am sure none of the other customers would have sided with them either.

[Beso]

They refused to leave after the police had asked them to 3 times..they were then arrested and released without charge.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Neither is it a fact they had a bad attitude but you are saying they did. Any proof?

They refused to leave after the police had asked them to 3 times...thats a bad attitude.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They refused to leave after the police had asked them to 3 times...thats a bad attitude.

but WHY were they asked to leave prior to that

'if you ask to use our restroom, we'll call the police on you' yeah that makes total sense

[Beso]

Originally Posted by montblanc

but WHY were they asked to leave prior to that

'if you ask to use our restroom, we'll call the police on you' yeah that makes total sense

They came in, asked to use the toilet...the lady used her judgement and said no..then followed up on that judgement by asking them to leave...they refused leaving her nonoption but to call the police.....


They then refused to leave 3 times when asked by the police so were arrested.


I think the womans judgement was spot on.

[Kazanne]

A lot of places don't like you using their toilets unless you patronise their business, I also feel a bit rude when I have done it , only ever do it when I've been desperate. but I would never just go and sit in a café etc , just to wait for someone , I would always buy something. This isn't about skin colour, it's about attitude.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They came in, asked to use the toilet...the lady used her judgement and said no..then followed up on that judgement by asking them to leave...they refused leaving her nonoption but to call the police.....


They then refused to leave 3 times when asked by the police so were arrested.


I think the womans judgement was spot on.

well her 'judgement' obviously had some sort of hidden agenda behind it because if they were 'so suspicious', i sure the other people sitting in the cafe would've felt it

instead they were all questioning why they had been arrested for no reason at all

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

A lot of places don't like you using their toilets unless you patronise their business, I also feel a bit rude when I have done it , only ever do it when I've been desperate but sometimes you just got to go. but I would never just go and sit in a café etc , just to wait for someone , I would always buy something. This isn't about skin colour, it's about attitude.

again with the attitude

again, many other people were sitting without buying anything but they weren't arrested

[Beso]

And starbucks refused a police officer the use of thier facilities last year...

[Ashley.]

Again, the whole 'attitude' thing cropping up, despite no evidence suggesting that they had an attitude. So desperate to make these men look guilty, for what reason?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by montblanc

again with the attitude

again, many other people were sitting without buying anything but they weren't arrested

It comes down to manners , you either have them or you don't

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by parmnion

And starbucks refused a police officer the use of thier facilities last year...

i don't see how that's not relevant to this discussion

if you're trying to compare that to this situation then was that police officer arrested?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Again, the whole 'attitude' thing cropping up, despite no evidence suggesting that they had an attitude. So desperate to make these men look guilty, for what reason?

But she phoned the police!!!

but yeah you're right, the desperation of trying to make these men look guilty is strange.

but the reason is probably obvious.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It comes down to manners , you either have them or you don't

yeah but why were they singled out and arrested for it when other white people were doing the same thing?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by montblanc

i don't see how that's not relevant to this discussion

if you're trying to compare that to this situation then was that police officer arrested?

No, i think he had the decency to think of the paying customers, so he did what any decent person would by dropping it and leaving...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Again, the whole 'attitude' thing cropping up, despite no evidence suggesting that they had an attitude. So desperate to make these men look guilty, for what reason?

They were asked to leave for a reason,they may know these men,they maybe trouble makers,none of us were there so we don't actually have any proof either way, but I really don't think they would have been asked to leave if something hadn't cracked off, what would be the point :? shrug: I may have no evidence of attitude just as you have no evidence of them doing nothing.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Again, the whole 'attitude' thing cropping up, despite no evidence suggesting that they had an attitude. So desperate to make these men look guilty, for what reason?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.y.../amp/517779002

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by montblanc

yeah but why were they singled out and arrested for it when other white people were doing the same thing?

Were you their ? I doubt it so you don't know that is fact, they could have said anything that people were not aware of,you don't call the police for nothing.