[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Perhaps she went onto auto pilot of her old routine.
Dropped the eldest child off at childcare and then went straight to work, as she would have done many many times before having the baby.
Perhaps the new baby had just started at their nursery/childcare and it totally skipped her mind.
Hopefully this case can be proven beyond doubt either way, so many different scenarios to consider.
Tragic.

Are there any other excuses?

Did the mccans get them too?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Are there any other excuses?

Did the mccans get them too?

The McCann's intentionally left their children alone in a foreign country. No excuses and a little bit late for Kate to say she forgot about them.

But it's funny how you defend a case where the parent made an INTENTIONAL CHOICE, but completely go against a woman who made a tragic mistake on the basis that she's single and probably on drugs.

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The McCann's intentionally left their children alone in a foreign country. No excuses and a little bit late for Kate to say she forgot about them.

But it's funny how you defend a case where the parent made an INTENTIONAL CHOICE, but completely go against a woman who made a tragic mistake on the basis that she's single and probably on drugs.

See this is where I dont get LTs stance.....he will vehemently defend the mccanns who admit leaving 3 young children under the age of 4 alone in an apartment, admitting that maddie woke the.night before crying and asking where they were, to go to eat, drink and socialise. Was kate taking strong painkillers too....or was she fully compus mentus when she made that decision to woefully neglect her children? Most people will answer that as we know from kate and gerrys own testimony that they were of sound mind when they left their children. However, we have one report from this but LT is surmising drugs?? At least wait for more testimony before castigating and casting your big stereotypical net because this woman was a single parent

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

See this is where I dont get LTs stance.....he will vehemently defend the mccanns who admit leaving 3 young children under the age of 4 alone in an apartment, admitting that maddie woke the.night before crying and asking where they were, to go to eat, drink and socialise. Was kate taking strong painkillers too....or was she fully compus mentus when she made that decision to woefully neglect her children? Most people will answer that as we know from kate and gerrys own testimony that they were of sound mind when they left their children. However, we have one report from this but LT is surmising drugs?? At least wait for more testimony before castigating and casting your big stereotypical net because this woman was a single parent

Yep, if anything the McCann's were drugging the children.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Perhaps she went onto auto pilot of her old routine.
Dropped the eldest child off at childcare and then went straight to work, as she would have done many many times before having the baby.
Perhaps the new baby had just started at their nursery/childcare and it totally skipped her mind.
Hopefully this case can be proven beyond doubt either way, so many different scenarios to consider.
Tragic.

That's it. So many factors involved, it's a much more complex situation than it first appears.

[user104658]

I actually would feel bad for the McCanns even with the basics of (what I believe) happened, if they had simply owned that. That is, we know they deliberately left them, I believe they possibly sedated her, and I believe she died in an accident while they were out. If they had come home and discovered that - even though it would be their fault - I would still have full sympathy for their tragedy.

My problem with the McCanns is that I personally 100% believe they found her dead, disposed of her body, and covered up (and are still covering up) what really happened. I don't believe they should have been, then or now, legally punished for her death despite it being a terrible mistake to leave her alone. I *do* believe that they should be punished for deception, fraud, and perverting the course of justice.

Its not comparable to this situation. It would only be comparable if the mother had found the baby in the car, but instead of raising the alarm, she had gotten rid of the evidence and claimed that the baby was abducted.

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

The police are actively investigating it, so I don't think there is a rush to absolve. A perfect crime in my understanding is when evidence of guilt can't be ascertained whether an investigation occurs or not, i.e. will likely be dismissed... not whether us randoms on the internet decide to raise a pitch fork or not?

Maybe it could be said some here are giving her a "pass"..., I guess?... but I don't feel the default for me could be for me to raise a pitchfork either. I don't assume the innocence or guilt of anyone as a casual newsreader... after all, we are only skimming the surface, we don't really know any of the key details... aside from the reporting of what was believed to have happened..