[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

Oh wow the legend returns

yes the king himself

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

think people are making a mountain out of a molehill tbh. not sure what it has to do with razors as its not really advertising the product but as a standalone thing its pretty good and well made

of course it is


It is saying that modern non-rapist men shave their armpits and legs with Gillette razors

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

of course it is


It is saying that modern non-rapist men shave their armpits and legs with Gillette razors

True, I assumed Gillette would be struggling because no one shaves their face any more but I forgot that people have started shaving their back, chest and arse.

I can't be bothered with any of that. I #2 clipper my face every 3 days and even then I don't bother on holidays . Though I don't have a hairy back... I'd probably get a gillette if that happened.

[Smithy]

Maybe update the title to “Snowflakes upset by tv advert”

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Maybe update the title to “Snowflakes upset by tv advert”

[Northern Monkey]

Youtube video

[Livia]

I'm sure all the males on this forum are happy to have the marketing department of multinational conglomerate Proctor & Gamble, advise them on what it means to be a man. I mean, most men I've met, with very few exceptions, have already known how to behave.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm sure all the males on this forum are happy to have the marketing department of multinational conglomerate Proctor & Gamble, advise them on what it means to be a man. I mean, most men I've met, with very few exceptions, have already known how to behave.

Yeah i’m so glad that ad came out.I honestly don’t know how i’d have stopped shouting at women in the street and teaching my kids toxic masculinity without it.
Guess that’s the annual kids burgers and boxing BBQ event cancelled this year.

Gillette fecked up there.
Imagine a load of men making a commercial public service announcement ‘mansplaining’ to women how they should be behaving.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm sure all the males on this forum are happy to have the marketing department of multinational conglomerate Proctor & Gamble, advise them on what it means to be a man. I mean, most men I've met, with very few exceptions, have already known how to behave.

Depends if you take television that literally.

Does anyone with their right mind pay attention to what TV tells you is sexy, beautiful, normal, good, bad, rational etc?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm sure all the males on this forum are happy to have the marketing department of multinational conglomerate Proctor & Gamble, advise them on what it means to be a man. I mean, most men I've met, with very few exceptions, have already known how to behave.

Exactly , who do these people think we are, cavemen?

Probably some daft bird about to go on maternity doing it out of spite

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Exactly , who do these people think we are, cavemen?

Probably some daft bird about to go on maternity doing it out of spite

LOL...

I remember the comedian Rita Rudner saying, if she ever goes into labour, she wants her husband on the next bed at least having his legs waxed. True equality, that is....

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Exactly , who do these people think we are, cavemen?

Probably some daft bird about to go on maternity doing it out of spite

To be fair to the ladies LT I'd be VERY surprised if this ad wasn't suggested by a man.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Exactly , who do these people think we are, cavemen?

Probably some daft bird about to go on maternity doing it out of spite

you don't know that so stop reaching and leave women on maternity alone
unless you successfully manage to shit a whole coconut sideways and then you can talk

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

you don't know that so stop reaching and leave women on maternity alone
unless you successfully manage to shit a whole coconut sideways and then you can talk

TS understanding labour so well, 10pts young man!

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

TS understanding labour so well, 10pts young man!

Seen a few live in my time (medical studies) and hate it when men are dismissive of the pain of it

[Tom4784]

There was nothing wrong with the Gilette ad. It's just a case of a loud minority having a mass tantrum and looking for an excuse to go 'grrr feminism!'.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There was nothing wrong with the Gilette ad. It's just a case of a loud minority having a mass tantrum and looking for an excuse to go 'grrr feminism!'.

Well... it's also a huge multinational company cynically exploiting and inflaming an important and already very sensitive issue to sell bathroom products and improve their bottom line. It's not just about the meninism / feminism angle here.

I mean if anyone could even vaguely convince me that the company gives a **** about men's image or women's rights or MeToo or anything other than their juicy bonus cheques that would be another matter. As it is it's hollow capitalism at its worst.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well... it's also a huge multinational company cynically exploiting and inflaming an important and already very sensitive issue to sell bathroom products and improve their bottom line. It's not just about the meninism / feminism angle here.

I mean if anyone could even vaguely convince me that the company gives a **** about men's image or women's rights or MeToo or anything other than their juicy bonus cheques that would be another matter. As it is it's hollow capitalism at its worst.

Of course it is because it's only the Men's Right idiots that have made this into a story. The ad would have passed the rest of the world by without nary a care were it not for those pathetic little people and their baby rages.

Loads of companies 'take on causes' for the benefit of profit, the only reason so many of them support charities in the first place is for the financial benefits. It's an accepted part of business, it's hollow but it's harmless.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Of course it is because it's only the Men's Right idiots that have made this into a story. The ad would have passed the rest of the world by without nary a care were it not for those pathetic little people and their baby rages.

Loads of companies 'take on causes' for the benefit of profit, the only reason so many of them support charities in the first place is for the financial benefits. It's an accepted part of business, it's hollow but it's harmless.

You can't really say "it's harmless so long as thick people don't kick off" though... if it's harmful it's harmful. The reasons don't really matter, this entire spectacle is damaging to both the brand and to the cause they are pretending to support because things like this generate backlash. As is often the case; we can't live as though the world is as we wish it was... or as if people we know do exist, don't exist. Whether or not it SHOULD be harmful has little to do with whether or not it IS harmful, and making excuses for large companies making blunders like this on the grounds that "it's just millions of people being babies" isn't helpful, even when it's accurate.

[Ant.]

I can nearly always see the other side of the story but I just failed to see how it was in any way "man-hating"

[Livia]

SO long as we all remember it was the marketing department of Proctor and Gamble that made this ad. It's marketing, not a public service announcement.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The aim is to get you to buy their very overpriced razors. They have no other aim motive or morality

[Marsh.]

Oh no, an advert stating the obvious "acting like a prick makes you a prick".

[Marsh.]

I love the advert about bloating. Beautifully illustrated by the lady with an oversized handbag.

[user104658]

But no srsly, there is a "bad" side to hyper-masculinity. I won't say "toxic masculinity" because frankly I despise almost all of these "buzz terms" ("toxic masculinity", "mansplaining", "feminazi", "snowflake", the overuse of the word "problematic", etc.) BUT it is a thing that exists, in the sense that it actually RESTRICTS some men in what they can express e.g. men being afraid to cry because of the reactions of other men, and actually, of many women. I suppose the difference is... it's fine if a man doesn't want to show emotion. It's NOT fine if a man does want to show emotion but can't because he will be mocked by other men. That's the part that's... err... problematic.

The problem is when men say things or take action based purely on social expectation, when it's not what they truly think or believe or what they actually want to do.

Ironically; it comes from a place of low self esteem, cowardice and lack of confidence. Confident men like me and you Alf don't give a shiny sh*t what other blokes think of us, amirite?