[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

-dances sexily-

-pops a £1 coin in your waistband-

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You're just saying "you're wrong" without elaborating, there's no reason to think ethnicity has any bearing on one's life anymore, it's not the 1950s.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You're just saying "you're wrong" without elaborating, there's no reason to think ethnicity has any bearing on one's life anymore, it's not the 1950s.

Oliver, you're literally shouting "WE DON'T HOLD BLACK PEOPLE IN CHAINS ANYMORE WHAT MORE DO THEY WANT!!!!"

No, it's not the 1950s, has that eliminated inequality? No it hasn't.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You're just saying "you're wrong" without elaborating, there's no reason to think ethnicity has any bearing on one's life anymore, it's not the 1950s.

Luv I would DRAG you so hard but I don’t wanna miss out on making my annual ‘Merry Christmas Ladies from your favourite festive cow!’ thread

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What have you seen that's outside your bubble that makes you think that way? There are no longer barriers for BAME people, in fact some places have preferential hiring practices in an effort to correct mistakes from the past, I'd say that indicates an accepting society.

Again, it's your experiences Oliver, and obviously your experiences are universal. You do you, pal.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oliver, you're literally shouting "WE DON'T HOLD BLACK PEOPLE IN CHAINS ANYMORE WHAT MORE DO THEY WANT!!!!"

No, it's not the 1950s, has that eliminated inequality? No it hasn't.

What inequality is there? You see people of all ethnicities in every class of society.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Luv I would DRAG you so hard but I don’t wanna miss out on making my annual ‘Merry Christmas Ladies from your favourite festive cow!’ thread

*hacks your account to have you banned before you dare*

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You're just saying "you're wrong" without elaborating, there's no reason to think ethnicity has any bearing on one's life anymore, it's not the 1950s.

Well this is by far the worst take I've seen on TiBB this decade, good going!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What inequality is there? You see people of all ethnicities in every class of society.

Translation: "My black neighbour owns her own house therefore black people are not discriminated in the world at all".

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Luv I would DRAG you so hard but I don’t wanna miss out on making my annual ‘Merry Christmas Ladies from your favourite festive cow!’ thread

bless.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Swan

Read my other posts.

White male privileged in everyday life is a myth, yes. I mean there are laws in place that make sure of that.

idk why but this justification always makes me laugh. stealing is against the law. murder is against the law. both of that **** happens on the daily. is it rly that hard to believe that the laws you're referring to can be broken. like do u hand on heart think there's not a single employer in this day and age that hasn't hired a person based on their gender or the fact their name isn't "white-sounding". like not even just one

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What might i have seen if I'd have grown up in different circumstances?

You think your life would be the same had you grown up in different circumstances? Seriously, Oliver?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Translation: "My black neighbour owns her own house therefore black people are not discriminated in the world at all".

I never said discrimination doesn't exist, where did you get that from? I said we're all on an equal footing now. We can all be anything we want, we can all be discriminated against.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

bless.

DURNT bless me ya racist little tart

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You think your life would be the same had you grown up in different circumstances? Seriously, Oliver?

I didn't say my life wouldn't be different, i was asking what examples of this apparently widespread discrimination and devaluation of BAME people I've apparently been missing.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cal.

DURNT bless me ya racist little tart

what have i said that's racist? Libel!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I miss seeing Niamh sitting at her fireplace, glowing in the light of her burning cigarette,

aw I miss those days, the fish tank is gone now though

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I never said discrimination doesn't exist, where did you get that from? I said we're all on an equal footing now. We can all be anything we want, we can all be discriminated against.

So, your chance of facing racial discrimination is the same as a non-white person?
Your chance of facing sexism is equal to that of women?
Your, assuming you're straight, chance of facing discrimination due to your sexuality is equal to those who aren't straight?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

aw I miss those days, the fish tank is gone now though

Me when I left the water brown for 2 days and never found the fish again.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well, I'm not talking the odd few bad apples. They don't represent everyone, and as you say, there will always be bad apples.

I never said you were playing the "I'm white card" I said you were playing whatabourtery. I brought up racism, homophobia and sexism and you responded as though I said white, straight men had NO issues or problems in their lives, rather than just the issues at hand. There is no reason a discussion about homophobia should include a response like "Just because I'm straight doesn't make my life easy" when any issues you've faced are highly unlikely to have been due to your sexuality. Whereas the homophobia faced by non-straight people is an issue. No need to bring anything else into it.

Your point about homophobia and racism always existing is probably true, humanity hates difference or change so it will always manifest in various forms. However, that means non-white people or non-straight people should just accept it and accept the prejudice? No. Why should they? It's very easy for someone who doesn't experience it to say.

If people accepted the disadvantages society threw at them there are all kinds of developments we would have never made over the years. Not accepting it changes things for the better. Why that progress should be stifled I have no idea.

They shouldn't except it, they also shouldn't assume a white straight male doesn't care about their struggles (this is a very dangerous growing trend) because a lot do.

No i think in order to achieve the change you want to see, no matter what they may be, you need to accept that a minority will never see things your way, or accept you for who you are. Those people need to be dismissed, why give them attention? No, we need to unite and fight together, no matter our race, sexuality etc. Again, if i accept you, you need to accept me. We are more divided than ever imo. I wont face homosexual hardships as a straight man, granted, that doesn't mean that straight males aren't sympathetic towards the cause.

On every side of this argument there a professional victims who need to get over themselves. And unfortunately logic seems to have gone out the window.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ant.

idk why but this justification always makes me laugh. stealing is against the law. murder is against the law. both of that **** happens on the daily. is it rly that hard to believe that the laws you're referring to can be broken. like do u hand on heart think there's not a single employer in this day and age that hasn't hired a person based on their gender or the fact their name isn't "white-sounding". like not even just one

You mean like Gary, or Paul, or Mike from their Indian call centres. Trust me, diversity in jobs where i live isn't a problem.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Me when I left the water brown for 2 days and never found the fish again.

I missed all this thread and Gav just went to bed and I have no idea what's going on with the movie I'm watching but I'm on holidays, yay

[Ant.]

swan sweety weren't you the one that said you don't believe in labels like "gay" and "homosexual" and that you only see people?? or am i misremembering

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Swan

They shouldn't except it, they also shouldn't assume a white straight male doesn't care about their struggles (this is a very dangerous growing trend) because a lot do.

No i think in order to achieve the change you want to see, no matter what they may be, you need to accept that a minority will never see things your way, or accept you for who you are. Those people need to be dismissed, why give them attention? No, we need to unite and fight together, no matter our race, sexuality etc. Again, if i accept you, you need to accept me. We are more divided than ever imo. I wont face homosexual hardships as a straight man, granted, that doesn't mean that straight males aren't sympathetic towards the cause.

On every side of this argument there a professional victims who need to get over themselves. And unfortunately logic seems to have gone out the window.

I love how you’ve responded to Marsh’s post where he was saying they shouldn’t have to accept it with an opening line which states they shouldn’t have to accept it before going on to explain that they should just get on with it and accept it.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I missed all this thread and Gav just went to bed and I have no idea what's going on with the movie I'm watching but I'm on holidays, yay

Enjoy these holidays gorgeous!