[Livia]

People are speaking with such authority on this thread, about Meghan and her father. None of us know what he's like, who he is, how he feels. It looks like people who hated him to begin with had that hatred reinforced. And those of us who had not much interest either way, saw him as a vulnerable, naive man.

None of us know. Just because you've seen Meghan on Suits doesn't mean you know her any more than I know her father.

[Marsh.]

Has anyone professed to know her because she was on Suits?

I think the prevailing defence of Meghan is actually the opposite, that we don't know her so the overwhelming backlash is entirely out of proportion and unjustified.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Thing is even if all of that is true, that's her and Harry's business. If she's literally awful and he wants to be with her more than he wants to be a Royal - that's entirely his prerogative. Because I'm pretty sure jet, as astute as you might be, I'm thinking you PROBABLY don't know Meghan better than her husband knows her. To think that you do would be astounding? SO if she is all of those things and he wants to be with her, then you can be pretty sure that... he must be those things, too? And yet 90% of the flak cannons are pointed directly at Meghan with Harry painted as some poor little cuckold victim powerless to stop such a monster. Ask yourself why.

Her former friends and colleagues say that Meghan was engaging, charming and funny...until she no longer needs you, then she turns cold and you never hear from her again. As I don't know the woman from Adam, I can only go from what I see, hear and read and my own gut instincts and form an opinion on that. Perhaps she loves Harry, who knows - for now anyway.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Has anyone professed to know her because she was on Suits?

I think the prevailing defence of Meghan is actually the opposite, that we don't know her so the overwhelming backlash is entirely out of proportion and unjustified.

As far as I'm aware, that is what she was famous for before she coupled up with Harry. I had no idea who she was because I don't watch it. My knowledge of her father is the same. Look at some of the hysterical language on here, Marshy. Hysterics based on some tabloid stories and a one-hour edited interview.

He's being called a bad father for releasing a letter she sent him , after it had already had parts of it leaked by Meghan's friends, and which showed him in a bad light. That strikes me as quite manipulative, and if someone had done that to me I'd also have released the entire document. But again, I don't know either of them and I really am not interested in guessing which is the more to blame.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

As far as I'm aware, that is what she was famous for before she coupled up with Harry. I had no idea who she was because I don't watch it. My knowledge of her father is the same. Look at some of the hysterical language on here, Marshy. Hysterics based on some tabloid stories and a one-hour edited interview.

He's being called a bad father for releasing a letter she sent him , after it had already had parts of it leaked by Meghan's friends, and which showed him in a bad light. That strikes me as quite manipulative, and if someone had done that to me I'd also have released the entire document. But again, I don't know either of them and I really am not interested in guessing which is the more to blame.

I think calling him a bad father based on this publicity tour of his is fair enough imo. As TS said earlier, even if we were to believe all of the stuff about Meghan it still doesn't paint him in a good light as her dad at all. Giving interviews to the likes of Piers Morgan, just grotesque.

But, I completely agree, we don't actually know either of them so don't, and probably won't ever, actually get to any sort of "truth". It's why I find the backlash against her so ridiculously out of proportion. But then, as has been said, it's probably being fed purposely more than ever to distract from the sex offender on the other page.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I think calling him a bad father based on this publicity tour of his is fair enough imo. As TS said earlier, even if we were to believe all of the stuff about Meghan it still doesn't paint him in a good light as her dad at all. Giving interviews to the likes of Piers Morgan, just grotesque.

But, I completely agree, we don't actually know either of them so don't, and probably won't ever, actually get to any sort of "truth". It's why I find the backlash against her so ridiculously out of proportion. But then, as has been said, it's probably being fed purposely more than ever to distract from the sex offender on the other page.

The press would never lie to us, would they....?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

The press would never lie to us, would they....?

Of course not. Daily Mail is my bible.

[rusticgal]

Meghans father having an interview with Piers Morgan is no more grotesque than Harry and Meghans self pity on their documentary about the hardships young girls suffer in South Africa...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

As far as I'm aware, that is what she was famous for before she coupled up with Harry. I had no idea who she was because I don't watch it. My knowledge of her father is the same. Look at some of the hysterical language on here, Marshy. Hysterics based on some tabloid stories and a one-hour edited interview.

He's being called a bad father for releasing a letter she sent him , after it had already had parts of it leaked by Meghan's friends, and which showed him in a bad light. That strikes me as quite manipulative, and if someone had done that to me I'd also have released the entire document. But again, I don't know either of them and I really am not interested in guessing which is the more to blame.

My feelings on this too. I had never heard of her or watched Suits

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Meghans father having an interview with Piers Morgan is no more grotesque than Harry and Meghans self pity on their documentary about the hardships young girls suffer in South Africa...

What about, what about, what about

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

I don’t support him giving interviews; I never said I agree with what he is doing. I was laying out how the estrangement by all accounts is said to have happened. The reasons she turned her back on him initially weren't that terrible, especially as she had neglected him at a time when he was all at sea with the huge impact of what was happening, and not even shown the respect of meeting Harry.
I don’t know how any adult could ignore their father’s heart surgery. She should have been over there as soon after the wedding as possible to visit him, but she didn’t even ask him how it went or indeed inquire after his health at all subsequently. How could anyone think that was fine? Instead Harry berated him while lying in his hospital bed. Disgusting.

Mr. Markle strikes me as desperate, angry, confused, sad, frustrated and probably in need of money to pay for his ongoing poor health issues. Meghan strikes me as cold, unforgiving, shallow, self - absorbed, fame hungry, and a serious grudge holder.
She has a history of discarding people when they are no longer of use to her. Her former friends before Suits (all her ‘friends’ now are rich and/or famous), her extended family, her former husband who was discarded in a cruel way (and who was the one who got acting roles to begin with), and now the royal family. When there is a pattern, there is a big red flag. I just don’t think she is a nice person, period.

You're kinda stepping over the whole repeated selling out his own daughter thing there by pinning it all on her. You're acknowledging it...slightly... but then you're brushing it all under the table to say that Meghan's basically responsible for a grown man's actions. You are justifying what is toxic behaviour to slam someone you don't like.

Meghan owes him nothing. She doesn't belong to him.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're kinda stepping over the whole repeated selling out his own daughter thing there by pinning it all on her. You're acknowledging it...slightly... but then you're brushing it all under the table to say that Meghan's basically responsible for a grown man's actions. You are justifying what is toxic behaviour to slam someone you don't like.

Meghan owes him nothing. She doesn't belong to him.

Meanwhile, you are brushing her initial neglectful and callous behaviour under the table - not even alluding to it in fact at all - and slamming him to justify your like of her and dislike of him, whereas I have said on here what he is doing now is wrong and he is now losing the plot.
If Meghan owes him nothing, then the same can be said for him owing her nothing either...relationships are a two - way street.

[Ammi]

...I really struggle to understand why he would choose to speak publicly to any media about her, as he did in the interview...when he knows this is the exact type thing that hurts her and a huge part of the reason given for her and Harry’s decision...and then to add another layer of hurt, he’s chosen to speak to someone that he knows feels nothing but negativity for her...it’s unfathomable...as a parent, I find that unfathomable...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I really struggle to understand why he would choose to speak publicly to any media about her, as he did in the interview...when he knows this is the exact type thing that hurts her and a huge part of the reason given for her and Harry’s decision...and then to add another layer of hurt, he’s chosen to speak to someone that he knows feels nothing but negativity for her...it’s unfathomable...as a parent, I find that unfathomable...

100%. Can't see how any parent could possibly defend it actually

[Livia]

I don't see how anyone can feel so strongly without knowing all the facts. I think it's terribly sad that a father and daughter have come to this. Apart from that, it's gossip in my view.

[GoldHeart]

This guy has literally sold his daughter down the river ,yet he wants sympathy the delusion is real.

Hope he enjoys the dirty payouts he's had to bad mouth his daughter and her husband. Everyone is a grown adult, and it's embarrassing how he's behaving.

Meghan & Harry have enough on their plates ,they also have a son to think of. They don't have time for this crap.

[Ammi]

....hmmmm, no...it isn’t gossip that Thomas Markle chose to subject his daughter to more media scrutiny by agreeing to and giving an interview with someone who has shown a strong bias toward Meghan...that’s not really gossip at all, it is what it is...

[Livia]

Again... no one knows what Meghan and Harry have time for.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Again... no one knows what Meghan and Harry have time for.

With an 8 month old baby I'm sure you could take a guess.

[GoldHeart]

All I know is if I was in Meghan's shoes I'd feel extremely betrayed , he makes it incredibly difficult to sympathise with when he keeps twisting the knife .

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

With an 8 month old baby I'm sure you could take a guess.

They have had countless nannies and have one now.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

They have had countless nannies and have one now.

Thank you, Meghan.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....hmmmm, no...it isn’t gossip that Thomas Markle chose to subject his daughter to more media scrutiny by agreeing to and giving an interview with someone who has shown a strong bias toward Meghan...that’s not really gossip at all, it is what it is...

Exactly. It's fact

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

They have had countless nannies and have one now.

Wow I wasn't aware you were close friends with Meghan & Harry , how's baby Archie doing ?? he's soo cute .

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Thank you, Meghan.

You are welcome jan.