[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

.Boogaloo boys killed security and law enforcement this year
.Jeffersontown Kruger shooting
.El Paso Walmart shooting
.Pittsburgh Synagogue shooting
. An anti-racism protestor was run over and killed by a neo-nazi in Charlottesville
.Lafayette cinema shooting
.Blaze Bernstein was stabbed to death by a neo-nazi because he was Jewish and openly gay.
.A man killed two people on a train in Portland after being confronted because he was abusing muslims
.Timothy Caughman was stabbed to death by a white man who admitted to killing black men so that white women didn’t get into interracial relationships with them
.Colorado planned parenthood shooting
. Charlestone church shooting


58 deaths in total at the hands of right wing terrorists and that’s just in 5 years, there are many many more examples.

But yeah, people angry at racism smashing windows and setting fires, with no formal deaths attributed to them are the real dangers in America, nah.

10 deaths a year from a population of 300,000,000?

Id imagine most Americans are far worried about looting and burning of businesses by extreme left criminal thugs prevalent in the great Democrat-run cities

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Black lives are less important than insured brick or mortar it seems.

That’s what happens in a racist capitalist country

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

10 deaths a year from a population of 300,000,000?

Id imagine most Americans are far worried about looting and burning of businesses by extreme left criminal thugs prevalent in the great Democrat-run cities

So a burning building where nobody dies is more important then the death of 10 people?

[Denver]

burn the whole building down starting with Trump Towers

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Denver

So a burning building where nobody dies is more important then the death of 10 people?

yes especially if its your city

In Wisconsin at least half a dozen buildings burned to the ground, including small businesses and a Wisconsin probation and parole office. Every car in a dealership lot was charred.

Countless other buildings had smashed windows and vandalized exteriors.

Very worrying for the local non-criminal community.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

.Boogaloo boys killed security and law enforcement this year
.Jeffersontown Kruger shooting
.El Paso Walmart shooting
.Pittsburgh Synagogue shooting
. An anti-racism protestor was run over and killed by a neo-nazi in Charlottesville
.Lafayette cinema shooting
.Blaze Bernstein was stabbed to death by a neo-nazi because he was Jewish and openly gay.
.A man killed two people on a train in Portland after being confronted because he was abusing muslims
.Timothy Caughman was stabbed to death by a white man who admitted to killing black men so that white women didn’t get into interracial relationships with them
.Colorado planned parenthood shooting
. Charlestone church shooting


58 deaths in total at the hands of right wing terrorists and that’s just in 5 years, there are many many more examples.

But yeah, people angry at racism smashing windows and setting fires, with no formal deaths attributed to them are the real dangers in America, nah.

Boogaloo Boys? How do those idiots come up with those names Not heard of them. Hopefully all of the criminals you mentioned are facing or have faced justice?

50-odd deaths in five years isn't that much.

Also bare in mind they're usually individual people who generally get caught on their first outing at a single target, not an organised group or movement who constantly and indiscriminately destroy vast swathes of a city where innocent people live. Both forms of radicalisation should be cracked down on, the sooner the better.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Boogaloo Boys? How do those idiots come up with those names Not heard of them. Hopefully all of the criminals you mentioned are facing or have faced justice?

50-odd deaths in five years isn't that much.

Also bare in mind they're usually individual people who generally get caught on their first outing at a single target, not an organised group or movement who constantly and indiscriminately destroy vast swathes of a city where innocent people live. Both forms of radicalisation should be cracked down on, the sooner the better.

Good ****ing grief, Oliver.

You're basically saying you're perfectly fine with a set amount of terror related deaths as long as they don't go over a perceived amount. 50 murders (NOT deaths) are 50 too many and don't get it twisted, 50 terror related deaths in 5 years is a ****ing lot. There is no 'acceptable amount'. It doesn't make someone's death less bad if they're killed by a lone terrorist or a group.

Honestly, you've moved on from minimising a racist murderer's crime to minimising right wing terrorism and both are disgusting things to do.

[Oliver_W]

Chill yer beans love, I'm not minimizing anything. A single death is too many, obviously. But to act as if ten deaths a year indicates the biggest terror threat in the west is bonkers.

[Liam-]

I said in America, not the west and right wing terror is the biggest threat in the States at the moment, without fail

Although, it is a continually growing threat worldwide too so

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Chill yer beans love, I'm not minimizing anything. A single death is too many, obviously. But to act as if ten deaths a year indicates the biggest terror threat in the west is bonkers.

Completely wrong. Right Wing terrorism is considered the biggest threat in the US at the moment and Right Wing attacks are increasing throughout the west at a worrying rate, so yeah, you are trying to minimize it by making out that it's not as big of a threat as it is.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Completely wrong. Right Wing terrorism is considered the biggest threat in the US at the moment .

By what metric? If we're talking about deaths caused, islamic attacks have the right wing beat at 78 deaths since 2015. If we're talking about damage to communities, the left wing riots cause thousands (millions?) of dollars of damage, destroy businesses, and in Chicago for instance created "food deserts" where there were no active food stores within five miles.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

By what metric? If we're talking about deaths caused, islamic attacks have the right wing beat at 78 deaths since 2015. If we're talking about damage to communities, the left wing riots cause thousands (millions?) of dollars of damage, destroy businesses, and in Chicago for instance created "food deserts" where there were no active food stores within five miles.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/u...rism-laws.html

Homeland security themselves said that Right Wing terrorism is the biggest threat at the moment while islamic terrorism has been demoted to third, which isn't a surprise really given that they haven't had an islamic terrorist incident in quite a few years compared to the semi-regular Right Wing attacks.

I like how you attribute riots to protesters and the left when it's known that the agitators are nearly always Right Wing based. Russians and Right Wingers posing as Antifa on Twitter, police officers engaging in plots to destabalise peaceful protests etc.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN23B2TY
https://www.chcf.org/blog/journalist...ce-harassment/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/u...ts-antifa.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9539741.html

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Nice People

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I like how you attribute riots to protesters and the left when it's known that the agitators are nearly always Right Wing based. Russians and Right Wingers posing as Antifa on Twitter, police officers engaging in plots to destabalise peaceful protests etc.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN23B2TY
https://www.chcf.org/blog/journalist...ce-harassment/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/u...ts-antifa.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9539741.html

I guess it depends if the rioters were sitting at home on twitter, saw the tweets, and decided to where the protests were and cause trouble; or if the protests escalated to the point of riots because of high spirits and generally aggressive people. Just because some "bots" tweet out stupid things, it doesn't mean it leads to people acting on them, especially when people stoked by a "race war" rhetoric were already present and protesting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kenosha activist declares open season on white people:
'It’s time for us to kill one of yours'





At a rally in Kenosha on Saturday, an activist declared that black people
should retaliate against white people when they kill members of the black
community.


What did the "activist" say?

According to the Kenosha News, the shocking comments were made during a
rally on Saturday during which demonstrators demanded justice for Blake.


The man, who was only identified by one demonstrator as "our president,"
according to the newspaper, made his comments during what the Kenosha
News called a "peaceful march."

But the activist's instructions were anything but peaceful.

"I love being black. I love black people. I know some of you may not want to
say that," the man said, according to the Kenosha News. "You tell us how t
behave when you have taken our lives. The black man is worth something. His life is worth something."

"I have to say god d**n it — if you kill one of us, it's time for us to kill one of yours," the activist went on to say. "I know everybody don't want to hear
that. But d**n why are we the ones who have to keep burying ours and got
to keep clean for you to see us as being human? We ain't never did nothing to nobody."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/kenosh...l-one-of-yours

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Kenosha activist declares open season on white people:
'It’s time for us to kill one of yours'





At a rally in Kenosha on Saturday, an activist declared that black people
should retaliate against white people when they kill members of the black
community.


What did the "activist" say?

According to the Kenosha News, the shocking comments were made during a
rally on Saturday during which demonstrators demanded justice for Blake.


The man, who was only identified by one demonstrator as "our president,"
according to the newspaper, made his comments during what the Kenosha
News called a "peaceful march."

But the activist's instructions were anything but peaceful.

"I love being black. I love black people. I know some of you may not want to
say that," the man said, according to the Kenosha News. "You tell us how t
behave when you have taken our lives. The black man is worth something. His life is worth something."

"I have to say god d**n it — if you kill one of us, it's time for us to kill one of yours," the activist went on to say. "I know everybody don't want to hear
that. But d**n why are we the ones who have to keep burying ours and got
to keep clean for you to see us as being human? We ain't never did nothing to nobody."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/kenosh...l-one-of-yours

Scary, but remember one nasty racist doesn't represent the entire movement.

If I was a protester I'd be really pissed off that people like that were taking the spotlight.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I guess it depends if the rioters were sitting at home on twitter, saw the tweets, and decided to where the protests were and cause trouble; or if the protests escalated to the point of riots because of high spirits and generally aggressive people. Just because some "bots" tweet out stupid things, it doesn't mean it leads to people acting on them, especially when people stoked by a "race war" rhetoric were already present and protesting.

This thread is about a murderer that basically did just that...

Please, the only people going on about race wars are racists that see black people demanding equality and to not be murdered by the police as a threat. No one who believes in Black Lives Matter care about some racist's race war delusions, they just want justice and equality.

I feel like, no matter what is posted, you are determined to see BLM in a bad light, or are determined to make it seem like an extremist organisation that's the opposite of the same coin to far right extremists when it's clearly not.

[Nicky91]

Trump is coming to Kenosha, but he doesn't want to meet Jacob Blake's parents (because they only want to with their lawyers)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump Defends Kenosha Shooting Suspect

President Trump on Monday declined to condemn the actions of the suspected 17-year-old shooter of three protesters against police brutality in Kenosha, Wis., claiming, without evidence, that it appeared the gunman was acting in self defense.

Kyle Rittenhouse has been charged with six criminal counts, including first-degree intentional homicide, for the shooting last week that left two protesters dead and a third injured. An investigation is ongoing, which the president also acknowledged.

The incident occurred during the third night of unrest following the police shooting of 29-year-old on the run criminal Jacob Blake,.

When asked during a Monday press briefing whether he would condemn the Illinois teen's actions, Trump defended Rittenhouse, suggesting that it appeared to him the shooter was acting in self defense.

"He was trying to get away from them, I guess, it looks like," Trump said, noting the incident was under investigation. "I guess he was in very big trouble. He probably would have been killed," Trump said.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/31/90813...=1598945820661

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Trump Defends Kenosha Shooting Suspect

President Trump on Monday declined to condemn the actions of the suspected 17-year-old shooter of three protesters against police brutality in Kenosha, Wis., claiming, without evidence, that it appeared the gunman was acting in self defense.

Kyle Rittenhouse has been charged with six criminal counts, including first-degree intentional homicide, for the shooting last week that left two protesters dead and a third injured. An investigation is ongoing, which the president also acknowledged.

The incident occurred during the third night of unrest following the police shooting of 29-year-old on the run criminal Jacob Blake,.

When asked during a Monday press briefing whether he would condemn the Illinois teen's actions, Trump defended Rittenhouse, suggesting that it appeared to him the shooter was acting in self defense.

"He was trying to get away from them, I guess, it looks like," Trump said, noting the incident was under investigation. "I guess he was in very big trouble. He probably would have been killed," Trump said.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/31/90813...=1598945820661

Trump defending murderers

[Tom4784]

Murder is okay if you're a racist, it seems.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He went there with an illegal weapon and murdered two people, he should rot in prison with the other murderers, simple as that really.

INcorrect it was not an illegal weapon and he was legally allowed to open carry it in Wisconsin