[Parmy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Bless you Parm, for running to LT's aid.

I'm actually using LT's playbook by telling people what sources I will and won't accept, but I don't remember seeing you tell him to find stuff himself.

He hasnt ever told me to do my own research...you however have...so just returning the favour for once.

[Marsh.]

Wiki can be edited by anyone. It is not a source.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Wiki can be edited by anyone. It is not a source.

common misconception

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32412121

"Anyone can - it's open to all and can be modified and edited by anyone. However, Wikipedia's administrators protect some pages from direct editing if they believe they are regularly subjected to "vandalism" - the addition of abusive language or falsehoods."

if you believe that the first line in the BLM entry is false then report it but i think you will find it is protected

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

common misconception

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32412121

"Anyone can - it's open to all and can be modified and edited by anyone. However, Wikipedia's administrators protect some pages from direct editing if they believe they are regularly subjected to "vandalism" - the addition of abusive language or falsehoods."

if you believe that the first line in the BLM entry is false then report it but i think you will find it is protected

No misconception, in your own words "some pages". You could remove all doubt and use better sources. But never do. Funny that.

[arista]

[The Slim Reaper]

[bots]

whats happening here though is that gareth and the FA are trying to silence peoples right to peacefully protest against politics being used in sport

People cant be told what they should not be offended about, that's not how it works

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

whats happening here though is that gareth and the FA are trying to silence peoples right to peacefully protest against politics being used in sport

People cant be told what they should not be offended about, that's not how it works

You have that the complete wrong way round. First off, taking the knee was the first gesture in this scenario. I think we can agree that fans weren't booing players before kick-off until this happened, so just by the sequence of events, then England "fans" are trying to shut down a peaceful protest.

And again, why is black lives mattering viewed as a distasteful message - political or otherwise, that should be protested?

To be clear, I agree you have a right to protest against equality, but I've yet to see a coherent or honest reason beyond...Marxism innit.

Poppies are political but I've never seen England fans boo their use, or seen anyone say that politics should be kept out of sport. It's only this one specific instance...

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

[Ammi]

…people can be offended for sure, but that’s because they’re placing a meaning on it that doesn’t represent it so basically creating their own offence or outrage…which seems to be the thing more and more atm with different things…

…I glanced at wiki just now and …. ‘The slogan "Black Lives Matter" itself remains untrademarked by any group.’….BLM represents peaceful protest and is displayed in many different ways…in football like this, it’s the taking of the knee…and it’s a united spirit against discrimination in sport, no more/no less…as has been said…that’s the only meaning placed on it…the stalemate is that the objections are trying to silence that peaceful gesture….

[Crimson Dynamo]

football fans boo at away fans, refs, bad decisions by their manager, players from all teams, players in their own team, they boo police, the boo security staff, they boo mascots in fact they boo nat pretty much everything so why are you bothered that they boo a silly misguided gesture?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

football fans boo at away fans, refs, bad decisions by their manager, players from all teams, players in their own team, they boo police, the boo security staff, they boo mascots in fact they boo nat pretty much everything so why are you bothered that they boo a silly misguided gesture?

I mean, one of us is really bothered and the other is only asking for an honest explanation that forces the other one to run to google