[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well obviously not actual "incels" (at 12 you would hope that they are ALL celibate) but yes at least two boys with YouTube/TikTok accounts that are, essentially, full of frustration, hatred and ranting directed at women/girls. That's the worrying thing really - I doubt they're on redpill/blackpill forums themselves but the rhetoric is filtering down into "the mainstream". MRA stuff ("It's men who have it worst/women are unsympathetic") is absolutely ALL OVER TikTok for example. Most of them aren't the "hardcore" ones you'd find on 4chan or Reddit but they're picking up these ideas from other Social Media, and the terms/language being used is always the same, so it's coming from the same source (mostly Reddit).

That's so scary TS and I agree with your posts in here, this should absolutely be considered a terror attack, I think its important that it's considered that so that awareness of those kind of groups online is raised, they are grooming and radicilising men online and are dangerous

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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As usual, you have literally no idea what you’re talking about, but on this occasion I can’t be bothered going too far into it. The PUA/MRA/Incel movements are no different to radical Islam or racial extremism, they do target women, repeatedly, it has been a growing problem for decades and this is 100% terrorism.

Just because it’s not a subsection of radicalised behaviour you were previously aware of doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. You would do well to actually read up on it, instead of dismissing it out of hand, because you aren’t aware of the issues women face.

How many times a year do you and Dezzy come out with the line "You have no idea what you're talking about"

It's quite a few.

Why is it that you and Dezzy know everything about everything and you always like to remind us that you know things and nobody else does?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

How many times a year do you and Dezzy come out with the line "You have no idea what you're talking about"

It's quite a few.

Why is it that you and Dezzy know everything about everything and you always like to remind us that you know things and nobody else does?

He didn't even know the word "incel", Alf, and repeatedly said "intel". He had no idea what he was talking about.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well obviously not actual "incels" (at 12 you would hope that they are ALL celibate) but yes at least two boys with YouTube/TikTok accounts that are, essentially, full of frustration, hatred and ranting directed at women/girls. That's the worrying thing really - I doubt they're on redpill/blackpill forums themselves but the rhetoric is filtering down into "the mainstream". MRA stuff ("It's men who have it worst/women are unsympathetic") is absolutely ALL OVER TikTok for example. Most of them aren't the "hardcore" ones you'd find on 4chan or Reddit but they're picking up these ideas from other Social Media, and the terms/language being used is always the same, so it's coming from the same source (mostly Reddit).

Idiot parents leaving their kids to be raised by the internet are responsible for so many damaged people tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

In the chat rooms and forums dedicated to the extreme incel misogynistic subculture, Jake Davison was praised as a "saint" on Saturday night.

In a series of bizarre and invariably deeply offensive comments, the Plymouth mass shooting was hailed as marking the beginning of a new "season" of attacks by young men filled with hatred towards women.

One incel – an involuntary celibate – expressed disappointment that Davison's "score", or the number of people he had killed, was not higher.

Another warned that he feared Davison's murders could erode the rights of British incels to arm themselves to carry out more attacks. Many blamed women who had spurned Davison's advances as responsible for his actions.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...rshails-saint/

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In the chat rooms and forums dedicated to the extreme incel misogynistic subculture, Jake Davison was praised as a "saint" on Saturday night.

In a series of bizarre and invariably deeply offensive comments, the Plymouth mass shooting was hailed as marking the beginning of a new "season" of attacks by young men filled with hatred towards women.

One incel – an involuntary celibate – expressed disappointment that Davison's "score", or the number of people he had killed, was not higher.

Another warned that he feared Davison's murders could erode the rights of British incels to arm themselves to carry out more attacks. Many blamed women who had spurned Davison's advances as responsible for his actions.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...rshails-saint/

Unbelievable really

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Unbelievable really

Its like from a novel and not real life

[bots]

they really must re-classify this type of attack as terrorism so that it gets the priority and action it needs

[Cherie]

It’s really sad that a group that was started innocently to find support has morphed into this level of evil

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well obviously not actual "incels" (at 12 you would hope that they are ALL celibate) but yes at least two boys with YouTube/TikTok accounts that are, essentially, full of frustration, hatred and ranting directed at women/girls. That's the worrying thing really - I doubt they're on redpill/blackpill forums themselves but the rhetoric is filtering down into "the mainstream". MRA stuff ("It's men who have it worst/women are unsympathetic") is absolutely ALL OVER TikTok for example. Most of them aren't the "hardcore" ones you'd find on 4chan or Reddit but they're picking up these ideas from other Social Media, and the terms/language being used is always the same, so it's coming from the same source (mostly Reddit).

Yikes!

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's so scary TS and I agree with your posts in here, this should absolutely be considered a terror attack, I think its important that it's considered that so that awareness of those kind of groups online is raised, they are grooming and radicilising men online and are dangerous

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I agree with both of you on this.

And tbh anybody that's grooming kids into the Incel ideology should be arrested imo.

[Livia]

The police must have a good idea who these people are and where they can be found, and of course they could trace them through the Internet. Round them up and make a bloody example of them. They have no right to a place in a decent society.

I've already had the police in touch with me about my shotgun, wanting to come and check it's being kept properly... not the first time they've checked either. I bet everyone with a licence is now going to get a knock on the door and looked at like they're some kind of moron. Let's hope they tighten the rules to get a licence.

[Mystic Mock]

This guy on Youtube covers Incels in this video, I thought that it was an interesting watch.

Youtube video

He isn't talking about this case specifically, but he tries to give an analysis on Incels in general and trying to get more insight into how they think.

[smudgie]

Involuntary celibate.
Does this mean they can’t get a shag, therefore they hate all women?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Involuntary celibate.
Does this mean they can’t get a shag, therefore they hate all women?

Most of them seem to have that toxic mindset,but I think others just feel sorry for themselves.

[bots]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Involuntary celibate.
Does this mean they can’t get a shag, therefore they hate all women?

pretty much. Looking at most of them, their chances would improve markedly if they had a shower and a shave, but that would involve them making an effort

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Involuntary celibate.
Does this mean they can’t get a shag, therefore they hate all women?

Yes in a nutshell, if no one fancies them it’s the woman’s fault

[user104658]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Involuntary celibate.
Does this mean they can’t get a shag, therefore they hate all women?

In short, yes, but it’s more complex than that in that it attracts people who are just feeling a bit lost and sorry for themselves (and who would have perfectly normal love lives if they spent a little time on themselves, even just emotionally) and indoctrinates them into ideas that it’s hopeless, there’s no point trying to improve, women owe them something, that they’re doomed, and at the extreme end that they should be angry at women/the world (it often extends to hating men who do have partners, they are also targets of hatred) and that they should ultimately “do something about it”.

That’s what makes it radicalisation/extremism and the violent action terrorism. Yes it’s individuals with warped views and poor self esteem but that is taken by a group with a very clear ideology, their own terminologies, basically a religion in every sense other than being “mystical” and it’s weaponised.

Like I said I really see it as no different at all to other forms of violent extremism.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

pretty much. Looking at most of them, their chances would improve markedly if they had a shower and a shave, but that would involve them making an effort

I really fit in with the Incels on the shave part.

I look like a ****ed up looking Country Singer at the moment.

I really don't get how not having sex with women seems to get them so bent out of shape? I know that it clearly bothers them, but it's not the end of the world if you don't get laid.

[arista]

[Five people shot by a gunman in Plymouth
were unlawfully killed, an inquest jury
has concluded.
Jake Davison killed his mother and four other people,
including a three-year-old girl, with a pump-action shotgun
in Keyham in August 2021.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-64674901



[Jurors at a five-week inquest held at
Exeter Racecourse gave their conclusions
today]

[arista]

From Ch4HDnews

The Police never checked the Video
Davison Beating a kid up in a park.
Just before they handed his shotgun
back?


The Law on Gun Ownership
needs updating

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

[Five people shot by a gunman in Plymouth
were unlawfully killed, an inquest jury
has concluded.

Gosh and there was me thinking there was the possibility he'd shot them lawfully...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Gosh and there was me thinking there was the possibility he'd shot them lawfully...

[arista]