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Old 29-07-2024, 07:30 PM #1
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…well, you weren’t confident of those ‘facts’ yourself, Arista…and lots of false information being fabricated about those ‘facts’ so I would say that it’s hugely questionable that there is ‘nothing wrong with it’ until the information is given …what’s that saying…?..a little information is a dangerous thing…?…that’s certainly true in our world today…
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…well, you weren’t confident of those ‘facts’ yourself, Arista…and lots of false information being fabricated about those ‘facts’ so I would say that it’s hugely questionable that there is ‘nothing wrong with it’ until the information is given …what’s that saying…?..a little information is a dangerous thing…?…that’s certainly true in our world today…
Yes, yesterday,
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But now the Daily Telegraph has given a proper update
better than the brief Police.

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…I’m not getting into this with you, Arista or playing this game …the attacker was a UK citizen/born in Wales and from early childhood was a local resident in the Southport area…the heritage of his parents or grand parents or great grandparents etc…has no bearing on his actions or this heinous attack…
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…I’m not getting into this with you, Arista or playing this game …the attacker was a UK citizen/born in Wales and from early childhood was a local resident in the Southport area…the heritage of his parents or grand parents or great grandparents etc…has no bearing on his actions or this heinous attack…
To be fair we don’t know if his childhood had any impact on his actions
He could of been bullied for being different before we know
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They will not be allowed to release a name as he is under 18. I think a judge has to lift reporting restrictions when it involves a minor
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They will not be allowed to release a name as he is under 18. I think a judge has to lift reporting restrictions when it involves a minor
How fortunate that he was just one year under the age.

My point is, I don't believe he was 17. I think that as per usual, we are being lied to.

It's not like we haven't been lied to before.
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How fortunate that he was just one year under the age.

My point is, I don't believe he was 17. I think that as per usual, we are being lied to.

It's not like we haven't been lied to before.
I also don't think he's 17. They can say what they want, no one is checking on them. They can come to the UK and do what they want. And they know it.
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How fortunate that he was just one year under the age.

My point is, I don't believe he was 17. I think that as per usual, we are being lied to.

It's not like we haven't been lied to before.
I get the feeling if he was a white national we would know by now

bit like that illegal who stabbed kids in Ireland and they kept that quiet for ages, i think it was 1 month?
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I get the feeling if he was a white national we would know by now

bit like that illegal who stabbed kids in Ireland and they kept that quiet for ages, i think it was 1 month?
that is not right, he was an immigrant but had Irish Citizenship and had been in the country for years
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that is not right, he was an immigrant but had Irish Citizenship and had been in the country for years
my bad he was an unemployed migrant on benefits and they kept his name out the media for a month
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A lot of assumptions being made in this thread. Not surprising given the magnitude and horrificness of what has happened but all assumptions until we find out exactly who he is. He will have to appear in court if charged but I imagine the hearing will be behind closed doors if he is, in fact, a minor.

If he is an adult they will release his name....they have with the guy who stabbed the soldier. If it can be released it will have to be.
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A lot of assumptions being made in this thread. Not surprising given the magnitude and horrificness of what has happened but all assumptions until we find out exactly who he is. He will have to appear in court if charged but I imagine the hearing will be behind closed doors if he is, in fact, a minor.

If he is an adult they will release his name....they have with the guy who stabbed the soldier. If it can be released it will have to be.
So many similar incidents all passed off as not terror related. Mental health issues. Blah blah blah Are we being played?
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So many similar incidents all passed off as not terror related. Mental health issues. Blah blah blah Are we being played?
I agree that the terminology needs looking at with regards to what constitutes a terror attack. Surely anything that generates terror is by definition a terror attack, particularly if there are multiple casualties as today.

The most important thing, for me though, is not his nationality or race or religion, it is the fact that 2 children have lost their lives and others are critically injured. That is where my tho7ghts are this evening, not with the scum who did it
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I agree that the terminology needs looking at with regards to what constitutes a terror attack. Surely anything that generates terror is by definition a terror attack, particularly if there are multiple casualties as today.

The most important thing, for me though, is not his nationality or race or religion, it is the fact that 2 children have lost their lives and others are critically injured. That is where my tho7ghts are this evening, not with the scum who did it
We could be under attack and the government doesn't seem worried at all. Which is crazy!
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We could be under attack and the government doesn't seem worried at all. Which is crazy!
We are not under attack.....those children were today. This is becoming a little bit hysterical now.
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A lot of assumptions being made in this thread. Not surprising given the magnitude and horrificness of what has happened but all assumptions until we find out exactly who he is. He will have to appear in court if charged but I imagine the hearing will be behind closed doors if he is, in fact, a minor.

If he is an adult they will release his name....they have with the guy who stabbed the soldier. If it can be released it will have to be.
My assumption comes from that the only accurate detail they are giving the people is that he's definitely 17.

He may be, but I have reason, from past form, not to believe that.
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My assumption comes from that the only accurate detail they are giving the people is that he's definitely 17.

He may be, but I have reason, from past form, not to believe that.
Who do you think is lying though? The Police? If they have lied it will become obvious when he attends court so what will they gain by lying? Only losing more public support for the Police
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we don't even know if he is an immigrant. Those photo news stories above look very dodgy to me. Designed to inflame racial tension. It's a bit too obvious to pass close scrutiny.

People will have seen him, 100's of people probably. People know the area he lived in, they will know exactly who he is, so if police were pulling a fast one, it would be pointed out very quickly and I surely don't need to point out that these are young children that have been murdered and injured. The police, fire and ambulance are loyal to the devastated families above anyone else

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I've seen some twitter posts saying all manner of mad things....people are crazy on twitter and a lot of what is said on there is just theor to inflame and cause worry and distrust
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Uncheck immigration. We don't know who they're letting in. Surely criminals should not be allowed to stay?
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