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Oliver_W · 01-03-2022, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes Poland do not like Black folk.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/...chaos-26357661

I thought all men under 60 were being kept in Ukraine to fight. Maybe it was something to do with that, rather than the amount of pigment their skin has?

arista · 01-03-2022, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I thought all men under 60 were being kept in Ukraine to fight. Maybe it was something to do with that, rather than the amount of pigment their skin has?

No these Black folk are Students
or workers.

Loads of Students went there,
as Study is cheaper

Niamh. · 01-03-2022, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I thought all men under 60 were being kept in Ukraine to fight. Maybe it was something to do with that, rather than the amount of pigment their skin has?

All Ukrainian men I would assume? From what I've read a lot of these people (men and women) were foreign students

Oliver_W · 01-03-2022, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

All Ukrainian men I would assume? From what I've read a lot of these people (men and women) were foreign students

Is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

Niamh. · 01-03-2022, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

If they were foreign students attending universities I'm sure they would have ID and papers to prove that. Anyway that's just what I read about it anyway

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...-poland-border

bots · 01-03-2022, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

passports are the usual give away

There is evidence of racist behaviour at the border, i don't think it can be denied. Black women were told to go back in the queue as they came to the border point and never allowed through

The Slim Reaper · 01-03-2022, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oliver_w

is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

Cherie · 01-03-2022, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

All Ukrainian men I would assume? From what I've read a lot of these people (men and women) were foreign students

I thought the order was all men no matter what

Niamh. · 01-03-2022, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I thought the order was all men no matter what

A spokesperson for the Ukrainian border guards also denied reports of discriminatory practices. He stressed that only Ukrainian men aged between 18 and 60 – who are required to join the war effort – were barred from leaving the country.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...-poland-border

arista · 01-03-2022, 01:34 PM

The Ukraine Leader in the Main City
for the sake of all the people there
he must soon surrender.

The Massive Russia Convey is there soon
they are not rushing to get there

bots · 01-03-2022, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

The Ukraine Leader in the Main City
for the sake of all the people there
he must soon surrender.

The Massive Russia Convey is there soon
they are not rushing to get there

they will never surrender

The Slim Reaper · 01-03-2022, 02:10 PM

Imagine tough talking Arista telling Churchill to surrender during the blitz

arista · 01-03-2022, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Imagine tough talking Arista telling Churchill to surrender during the blitz

Its not like that.

Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

Alf · 01-03-2022, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Its not like that.

Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

Putin has said he doesn't want Zelinsky removing.

bots · 01-03-2022, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Its not like that.

Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

because they will never give up their country willingly to invaders.

Have you actually been watching the news Arista? It appears not

Niamh. · 01-03-2022, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Its not like that.

Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

Are you serious?

The Slim Reaper · 01-03-2022, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Its not like that.

Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

The Germans were unstoppable, too. No one had even slowed them down. I thought all the "It woz the english alone what won the war" types would be a little more gung-ho. I thought not pushing crazy destruction and war was dangerous leftism?

To be serious though, there is a bit of a stand off really. Putin has obviously made the calculation thus far, that exterminating civilians whilst at the same time claiming to be a liberator, doesn't really add up. As soon as he starts levelling cities, then the facade slips, and there is no going back to the propaganda war and any claims he's made to his army and his population have been proved false. Lots of his soldiers are already demoralised, believing they were going there as liberators.

Denver · 01-03-2022, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Its not like that.

Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

Yet Russian deaths are far out weighting the Ukrainian deaths, Russia may have the numbers but their war equipment is very old and it can't cope with a country with barely any military supplies let alone the best in the world

Alf · 01-03-2022, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they will never surrender

Why not?

arista · 01-03-2022, 01:56 PM

PM Johnson now live in Estonia
on all 3 UK news channels

user104658 · 01-03-2022, 02:30 PM

To be fair, Putin's best-case scenario for taking + holding Ukraine would be Zelenskyy capitulating and Ukraine becoming a Russian vassal. Then they'd quickly hold a faux-democratic vote and he'd be voted out and replaced with a "proper" puppet government which would miraculously then be voted in by a landslide forever more.