[Twosugars]

Is the bad state of nhs a partisan point or objective truth? That's the key.
You dont need to be a labour activist not to believe the government propaganda that things are great

[MTVN]

I haven't really expressed a view on that, I just think the flash mob against Laura Kuennsberg is unfair and fits into a broader hate campaign that a lot on the left have carried out against her for ages (remember last year she needed bodyguards when attending the Labour conference)

[Alf]

We might have a few more Bob for the NHS if we wasn't giving billions to the EU each year.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

We might have a few more Bob for the NHS if we wasn't giving billions to the EU each year.

Not really.
Access to eu single market brings a lot in taxes via business profits. And it will be seriously smaller in future which means less money to spend on nhs
Other eu countries like France or germany are also net contributors and have decent health service

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

We might have a few more Bob for the NHS if we wasn't giving billions to the EU each year.

Somebody should put that on a bus.

I know you don't believe in facts, but here ya go:

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Somebody should put that on a bus.

I know you don't believe in facts, but here ya go:

'B-But immigration?!'

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'B-But immigration?!'

Economic anxiety.

Here is farage admitting the UK already has the ability to curb EU immigration;

People promoting brexit as a way to save the NHS, when the NHS itself, and all healthcare professional organisations have spoken up against it, is next level refusal to acknowledge reality.

[Twosugars]

Immigration will stay undiminished. Leavers were sold a lie.

Wonder if any of them will riot when they realise they've been duped?
My money is on that they will remain in denial and clutch at straws to justify their stupid decision

[Alf]

The rebel Alliance will destroy your Empire, we'll never turn to the Dark side.

Feel the Force

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

The rebel Alliance will destroy your Empire, we'll never turn to the Dark side.

Feel the Force

Spiffing

[arista]

Poxy Slow Supreme Court
is not going to conclude
until Monday or Tuesday


[15:28
End of session
Court is now over. We will hear from the judges' early next week.]

https://news.sky.com/story/john-majo...ament-11813644

[Lord Keen sums up govt’s case - prorogation
is ‘forbidden territory’ for the courts.
Admits it is an ‘ill-defined minefield’, but one that the courts are ‘not properly equipped’ to deal with.
#supremecourt
2:14 PM - Sep 19, 2019]




Early today

[Tom4784]

Nothing proves that the leaver side has taken leave of their senses like making out that Brexit is akin to Star Wars and they are saviours somehow.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nothing proves that the leaver side has taken leave of their senses like making out that Brexit is akin to Star Wars and they are saviours somehow.

Of Course
You can not blame the Spirit of Alf

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Of Course
You can not blame the Spirit of Alf

Wtf is spirit of Alf? You going supernatural on us now?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Wtf is spirit of Alf?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Wtf is spirit of Alf? You going supernatural on us now?

No he is still with us.
Alf can have a Strong Spirit
its the way he speaks


Get your Church Out of This

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

No he is still with us.
Alf can have a Strong Spirit
its the way he speaks


Get your Church Out of This

I dont care about his alcohol intake

[arista]

Faiza a "possible" New Labour MP
got told off for using that word

[arista]

The PM as he left that hospital , yesterday.

[arista]

[arista]

Sophie Ridge
SkyNewsHD reported this yesterday.
Juncker prefers a New Deal.

[joeysteele]

IF what he's handed in as ideas and thoughts, not firm proposals, are eligible for consideration by the EU.
Fair enough.

I have no time for Johnson or his domestic policies.

If he actually does follow a path of reason and does really work FOR, not just pay lip service to, getting a deal.
That will be good.

To shut up the extreme hardliners in his Cabinet too.

I'd hope a deal he got was supported.

Frankly though, I do think a confirmatory public vote on the deal or remain.
Still would be desirable.

If however, after all his rubbish so far on Brexit, he can get a deal, then I'd wish him good luck on that.

A deal preferably that doesn't suit the DUP and his extreme loudmouthed ERG grouping.
Would be welcomed by me.
I think it could attract many more Labour votes too.

Still tight arithmetic but a bit of hope possibly.

He will need an extension .
I don't get why he'd oppose that to secure a possible deal.
He isn't really the one asking for it, he as PM would only be doing what PMs ought to, obey the will of Parliament.

I don't like. trust or believe Johnson on just about anything.
If he's really serious on getting a valid deal for ALL.
Then he, in my view, warrants full support to that aim.

[bots]

the way i look at it, the moment Boris became PM, he had to play everything perfectly to be successful. In contrast, what we have seen is him bumbling along achieving nothing. A complete and utter failure. He has shown himself to be all talk and no substance. That is his record, and a no deal brexit cannot be spun any other way than a complete and utter failure that he is responsible for. The only way he has any chance of rescuing this is by getting a deal and time is running out. If brexit is delayed until next year, there will most likely be another GE and he will be toast.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the way i look at it, the moment Boris became PM, he had to play everything perfectly to be successful. In contrast, what we have seen is him bumbling along achieving nothing. A complete and utter failure. He has shown himself to be all talk and no substance. That is his record, and a no deal brexit cannot be spun any other way than a complete and utter failure that he is responsible for. The only way he has any chance of rescuing this is by getting a deal and time is running out. If brexit is delayed until next year, there will most likely be another GE and he will be toast.

I disagree, he was never going to be sucessful, noone who took over the brexit mess was going to be. They are only there so the blame when it all goes to **** (more than already) can be pinned on them and it can be cried 'the PM at the time messed up, but I...will not' when the new con leader is announced As of course that kind of childish nonsense matters much much more than our country..nt getting screwed in the first place. Hell, wouldn't be surprised if they found some way to blame labour for it all too..just waiting for it.