[arista]

[arista]

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

The EU stopping vaccinations has resulted in rise in a third wave. So they have to lockdown.
While we keep vaccinating and are about to open up.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The EU stopping vaccinations has resulted in rise in a third wave. So they have to lockdown.

While we keep vaccinating and are about to open up.

I think this is a common misconception to be honest... We have just had the wave that's now sweeping Europe. The huge spike we saw in January is what most of Europe is experiencing now. That's why I also don't understand why some news stories are worried that we'll be "next" . Lots of evidence to suggest that it's the "Kent strain" that's pushing numbers up all across Europe now and that was the strain that swept the UK over winter.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Just had my Jag, literally felt nothing

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Just had my Jag, literally felt nothing

Good to hear. Perfect excuse to take it easy today though....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Just had my Jag, literally felt nothing

......

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Just had my Jag, literally felt nothing

Did you hear Bill Gates in your ear though? That's the important test

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Just had my Jag, literally felt nothing

That's what I said LT, then the next day I felt really "off" and on day 3 totally exhausted and my arm was very sore . Woken up feeling fine yesterday though. Arm still feels slightly tender but just like a mild bruise.

That said, I did read that AZ makes younger people feel rougher and doesn't affect oldies quite as much (a lot of over 70's don't experience any side effects at all) so maybe you'll be OK.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

That's what I said LT, then the next day I felt really "off" and on day 3 totally exhausted and my arm was very sore . Woken up feeling fine yesterday though. Arm still feels slightly tender but just like a mild bruise.

That said, I did read that AZ makes younger people feel rougher and doesn't affect oldies quite as much (a lot of over 70's don't experience any side effects at all) so maybe you'll be OK.

my arm got sore after about 48 hours, then after half a day it was fine I think the AZ symptoms all follow a very similar path, just the severity of them differs slightly person to person. The perception is largely very subjective. One persons "feeling a bit off" could be anothers "feeling like death warmed up". Also, older people have gotten used to so many aches and pains etc that they consider feeling crap pretty normal

Pfizer again seems quite predictable. Soreness, muscle pain and more of a reaction on the 2nd jab than those have on AZ

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

my arm got sore after about 48 hours, then after half a day it was fine I think the AZ symptoms all follow a very similar path, just the severity of them differs slightly person to person. The perception is largely very subjective. One persons "feeling a bit off" could be anothers "feeling like death warmed up". Also, older people have gotten used to so many aches and pains etc that they consider feeling crap pretty normal

Pfizer again seems quite predictable. Soreness, muscle pain and more of a reaction on the 2nd jab than those have on AZ

I did think that actually - like I have 2 kids and I never get enough sleep so I'm always knackered anyway... so while I did feel pretty wiped from it, it wasn't THAT far from normal . I was wondering if someone who is usually well-rested and full of energy would feel like that and think "Oh god this is horrendous". Well welcome to my life buddy .

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

That's what I said LT, then the next day I felt really "off" and on day 3 totally exhausted and my arm was very sore . Woken up feeling fine yesterday though. Arm still feels slightly tender but just like a mild bruise.

That said, I did read that AZ makes younger people feel rougher and doesn't affect oldies quite as much (a lot of over 70's don't experience any side effects at all) so maybe you'll be OK.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Just had my Jag, literally felt nothing

Excellent


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[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Just had my Jag, literally felt nothing

That’s what she said

Congrats how are you feeling today?

[arista]

[People vaccinated up to and including 19 March 2021

First dose: 26,853,407

Second dose: 2,132,551]



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk

[Cherry Christmas]

AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine is both safe and highly effective, new trial data from the United States shows.
The data revealed the jab was 79 per cent effective against preventing symptomatic Covid-19 and 100 per cent effective at preventing severe illness and hospitalisation.
Scientists also said there were no safety concerns associated with blood clots.


The independent

Another link

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...ctive-76600407

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine is both safe and highly effective, new trial data from the United States shows.
The data revealed the jab was 79 per cent effective against preventing symptomatic Covid-19 and 100 per cent effective at preventing severe illness and hospitalisation.
Scientists also said there were no safety concerns associated with blood clots.


The independent

Another link

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...ctive-76600407

the eu have a lot to answer for in their whole handling of the AZ vaccine. They have actually directly caused the death of eu citizens which is unforgivable

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the eu have a lot to answer for in their whole handling of the AZ vaccine. They have actually directly caused the death of eu citizens which is unforgivable

so what

we don't have to answer for anything

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the eu have a lot to answer for in their whole handling of the AZ vaccine. They have actually directly caused the death of eu citizens which is unforgivable

100% effective against severe disease and hospitalisation is the news we have all been waiting for

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Cherie

100% effective against severe disease and hospitalisation is the news we have all been waiting for

Its fantastic news.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

[Cherry Christmas]

oll suggests slump in trust in AstraZeneca vaccine

Meanwhile, a new poll suggests that trust in the vaccine in many European countries has plunged following controversy around the jab in recent weeks.

The survey by British pollsters YouGov carried out in the week to 18 March found a majority of people in the largest European Union member states, including Germany, France, Spain, and Italy, now see the inoculation as unsafe.

However, views towards the AstraZeneca jab remain overwhelmingly positive in Britain, where two-thirds of respondents said it is safe, compared with just 9% believing it is not.

Earlier this month several EU countries, including Ireland, suspended its use, pending a review by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) after dozens of isolated cases of blood clots and brain haemorrhages.

The EMA last week declared the AstraZeneca jab "safe and effective", with the World Health Organization and the UK's medicines regulator issuing similar endorsements.

That led European countries to resume administering the vaccine, but not before severely damaging confidence in it.

In its survey, YouGov found 55% of Germans now say the vaccine is unsafe, a 15-point rise in a month, compared with 32% viewing it as safe.

In already more vaccine-hesitant France, 61% of respondents said it was unsafe, while Italy and Spain both saw a 27-point monthly jump in the number of people saying they did not trust the jab.

No similar increases in safety fears were seen for rival vaccines by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, YouGov said.

The pollsters interviewed 2,024 Germans, and around 1,000 adults in each of the other countries.

RTE.ie

looks like Sputnik it is then

[user104658]

These countries have shot themselves in the foot even when supply/demand is no longer an issue... the other vaccines are literally 10x - 20x more expensive per dose . Not that money should be the concern obviously, but still.

Even I have to admit that damage was done, I was hoping it wouldn't be AZ when I got mine (last week before it had really been confirmed whether or not these links were valid) and had a bit of an anxiety spike for a second "in the hotseat" so to speak . Luckily as a wise and logical person I can (usually) convince myself to be rational, but I can imagine a lot of lesserfolks just not turning up to appointments.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

These countries have shot themselves in the foot even when supply/demand is no longer an issue... the other vaccines are literally 10x - 20x more expensive per dose . Not that money should be the concern obviously, but still.

Even I have to admit that damage was done, I was hoping it wouldn't be AZ when I got mine (last week before it had really been confirmed whether or not these links were valid) and had a bit of an anxiety spike for a second "in the hotseat" so to speak . Luckily as a wise and logical person I can (usually) convince myself to be rational, but I can imagine a lot of lesserfolks just not turning up to appointments.

If the US approve the vaccine, things could get even trickier