[joeysteele]

What we are picking up is a strong number of Labour voters certainly down South, will be swinging behind the LibDems to help keep out a Con or defeat a Con.

There's likely to be more than usual tactical voting on a more planned scale this time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No one isnt voting Tory because of Liz Truss that is bollocks, but they are for Partygate and for the huge increase in illegal migrants and failed multiculturalism

50% of Hounslow is non-Brittish

London is cooked

that is why

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one isnt voting Tory because of Liz Truss that is bollocks, but they are for Partygate and for the huge increase in illegal migrants and failed multiculturalism

50% of Hounslow is non-Brittish

London is cooked

that is why

Strongly disagree, Truss was the single biggest blow to the Tories credibility

Party gate was forgiveable especially as Boris himself barely did anything. Crashing the economy was not

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Strongly disagree, Truss was the single biggest blow to the Tories credibility

Party gate was forgiveable especially as Boris himself barely did anything. Crashing the economy was not

"Truss was the single biggest blow to the Tories credibility "

In the media and Westminster bubble but for the gen public it never resonated

Just a pathetic spat in a dying party

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Truss was the single biggest blow to the Tories credibility "

In the media and Westminster bubble but for the gen public it never resonated

Just a pathetic spat in a dying party

it resonated with the GBP almost instantly, and the financial institutions around the world She sacked her chancellor fgs

[MTVN]

Currently enjoying my post vote pint. Sadly no dogs at my polling station

Labours odds for winning in my constituency are 1/100

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Currently enjoying my post vote pint. Sadly no dogs at my polling station

Labours odds for winning in my constituency are 1/100

even though i haven't voted, i'm still very interested in the result and what the public saying fu to the tories will do to the future political landscape. It will also be very funny if the likes of Cleverly lose their seats

[James]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Currently enjoying my post vote pint. Sadly no dogs at my polling station

Labours odds for winning in my constituency are 1/100

Odds for my constituency here in Ayrshire.

Labour 8/11
SNP 1/1
Conservatives 14/1
Liberal Democrats 125/1
Reform UK 150/1
Green Party 200/1

Check your constituency here - https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...etting-markets

[bots]

Originally Posted by James

Odds for my constituency here in Ayrshire.

Labour 8/11
SNP 1/1
Conservatives 14/1
Liberal Democrats 125/1
Reform UK 150/1
Green Party 200/1

Check your constituency here - https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...etting-markets

My constituency in kent


Conservatives 1/25
Labour 12
Reform 33
Liberal Democrats 100
Green 250

[bots]

Truss caused actual financial harm to the country. Having a drink at a party did not

[James]

Making Liz Truss Prime Minister (and the process of that leadership election) was a huge political own-goal, and the main reason they are so far behind in the opinion polls. The government lost their credibility very quickly.

Beyond that though, this is a Covid election. It is part of the pattern seen across Western democracies of governments becoming unpopular and being voted out as countries deal with the after-effects of the pandemic.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by James

Making Liz Truss Prime Minister (and the process of that leadership election) was a huge political own-goal, and the main reason they are so far behind in the opinion polls. The government lost their credibility very quickly.

Beyond that though, this is a Covid election. It is part of the pattern seen across Western democracies of governments becoming unpopular and being voted out as countries deal with the after-effects of the pandemic.

Well that's true, I do think any government would probably fall after this long in power and particularly when there have been global events that would have severely negatively impacted people even under the best government

The Tories could have done a little bit less badly than they will end up having done though

[bots]

i think there is just general dissatisfaction across the largest financial countries with populations just not getting the reward they feel they deserve for many, many years. I think this would be true even without covid and the war in ukraine.

This is also why immigration is a hot topic. When the economy is doing really well, no-one gives a stuff about immigration

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think there is just general dissatisfaction across the largest financial countries with populations just not getting the reward they feel they deserve for many, many years. I think this would be true even without covid and the war in ukraine.

This is also why immigration is a hot topic. When the economy is doing really well, no-one gives a stuff about immigration

Yeah agreed, the general global trend of the last 50 years has been towards more open borders and freer trade but people don't feel like that delivers for them anymore. We're at maybe the biggest tipping point in geopolitics and economic progression since WWI

[James]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah agreed, the general global trend of the last 50 years has been towards more open borders and freer trade but people don't feel like that delivers for them anymore. We're at maybe the biggest tipping point in geopolitics and economic progression since WWI

China becoming such an economic power despite not being democratic or have much free-speech is changing the world and politics.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by James

China becoming such an economic power despite not being democratic or have much free-speech is changing the world and politics.

Same with the Gulf countries - no democracy but enormous wealth and now becoming more important in global affairs

Could say it might change when oil reserves dry up but then you have a situation like Kuwait - the only Gulf country with anything close to democracy - which is now becoming more authoritarian and their own citizens blame parliament for constraining their economy while their neighbours flourish

[bots]

China is apparently in real trouble now. Due to corruption, the property market has collapsed and that feeds in to the issues with not having enough workers to pay for the OAP's. They really want couples to have 3+ children, but the young couples have small properties that only accommodate 1 child and they are not prepared to invest in bigger properties to support a bigger family, so there is no population growth.

China is basically in a downward spiral and they now need immigrants to keep the country going which is not really attractive in an authoritarian country

[bots]

CH 4 is first off the mark with their show on now

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

CH 4 is first off the mark with their show on now

id rather drink battery acid than watch c4

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

CH 4 is first off the mark with their show on now

Watching that and I like their panel but I'm put off by all the 'ordinary voters' sitting around and the Gogglebox angle

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Watching that and I like their panel but I'm put off by all the 'ordinary voters' sitting around and the Gogglebox angle

Live 11PM

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Watching that and I like their panel but I'm put off by all the 'ordinary voters' sitting around and the Gogglebox angle

i will switch around, but i like the panel on C4

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Sly news have ok guests

Youtube video

[bots]

Youtube video