[bots]

the AZ vaccine will be used around the world in huge numbers, so AZ couldnt give a toss about the EU in all honesty. What has been made clear is that the EU cannot be relied on in a tight spot, and that is best to know sooner rather than later. Also, if the infection rates spike the way I think they will across europe, the people are going to be mightily pissed off that they are dying due to the EU's incompetence

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Spoiler:

That poor bugger is aging terribly.

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

it will give you blood clots though


what do these uneducated oxford idiots know

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

it will give you blood clots though


what do these uneducated oxford idiots know

I think they know quite a lot

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I think they know quite a lot

in terms of honesty, fairness


eu countries who are lagging are Netherlands, Italy, France in terms of vaccinations


Germany already done 6.4 million, Merkel mentioned in her speech regarding new stricter lockdown measures yesterday also they still need to up the speed of their rollout (CureVac incoming of course, and also a deal with Russia on Sputnik being worked out as we speak so the german public can have two alternate options to AZ since they have no faith in it anymore, maybe they can send their AZ doses to Czech Republic since they had earlier announced eager to help out there)


but i see on a graphic, Germany still miles ahead of the EU in general in terms of vaccinations

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

in terms of honesty, fairness


eu countries who are lagging are Netherlands, Italy, France in terms of vaccinations


Germany already done 6.4 million, Merkel mentioned in her speech regarding new stricter lockdown measures yesterday also they still need to up the speed of their rollout (CureVac incoming of course, and also a deal with Russia on Sputnik being worked out as we speak so the german public can have two alternate options to AZ since they have no faith in it anymore, maybe they can send their AZ doses to Czech Republic since they had earlier announced eager to help out there)


but i see on a graphic, Germany still miles ahead of the EU in general in terms of vaccinations

What do they have the EMA for if they are going to take no notice, as I understand it Sputnik has not been approved by the EMA but Germany are going to use it... mess!

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What do they have the EMA for if they are going to take no notice, as I understand it Sputnik has not been approved by the EMA but Germany are going to use it... mess!

yeah so, who cares about EMA

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

it will give you blood clots though


what do these uneducated oxford idiots know

No
those people were going to have blood clots anyway.


Hence, the EU leaders saying use AZ

[Nicky91]

UK handled everything so well, no covid deaths at all either

[bots]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

UK handled everything so well, no covid deaths at all either

quit with the sarcasm Nicky, too many people on this forum have been personally affected by covid. Also quit with the constant slagging off of the vaccine that most people on this forum have chosen to take. You are not helping

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

quit with the sarcasm Nicky, too many people on this forum have been personally affected by covid. Also quit with the constant slagging off of the vaccine that most people on this forum have chosen to take. You are not helping

To be fair to Nicky I think he's just a bit frustrated and confused because a lot of the info he's getting at home is completely at odds with what he's hearing on here.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

The EU has really shot themselves on the foot.
By stopping the vaccination programme they caused a third wave.
While here in the UK we're on our way out because we keep vaccinating.
I don't even care if I can't go abroad this year, I just want some normality back.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

quit with the sarcasm Nicky, too many people on this forum have been personally affected by covid. Also quit with the constant slagging off of the vaccine that most people on this forum have chosen to take. You are not helping

what sarcasm?

i was told i should be more optimistic towards UK

so i am more optimistic


good no longer gonna slag off AZ vaccine then, then it is to be blamed on a bad batch of AZ here in the EU, but that is no excuse for us, since we also got other vaccines than this one


well Netherlands (my own country) really not proud of our lacklustre mess, slightly over 2 million vaccinated is far too little

[Cherry Christmas]

I am so confused, they won't use it and are waiting on Curevac and Sputnik but they won't export it either

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has voiced support for EU chief Ursula von der Leyen's threat to block AstraZeneca vaccines produced in the bloc from being exported, ahead of a crunch EU summit on the escalating row.

"I support Commission President Ursula von der Leyen," said Merkel.

"We have a problem with AstraZeneca," she added.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/...covid-vaccine/

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I am so confused, they won't use it and are waiting on Curevac and Sputnik but they won't export it either

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has voiced support for EU chief Ursula von der Leyen's threat to block AstraZeneca vaccines produced in the bloc from being exported, ahead of a crunch EU summit on the escalating row.

"I support Commission President Ursula von der Leyen," said Merkel.

"We have a problem with AstraZeneca," she added.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/...covid-vaccine/

yes the problem is more that people there no longer have faith in AstraZeneca, and as you can't force it onto people, since vaccinating should always remain a free choice


also why export something you don't trust? maybe all this what they got of AZ are a bad batch

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

The EU need to get vaccinating if they want to get cases down.
They're so behind, they've messed this up.
I really feel for people in Europe, they should be getting vaccinated, it's a complete disaster!

[bots]

i'm nearly 3 weeks in from my first jab, so from a confidence perspective, it makes all the difference in the world. People shouldn't underestimate the difference it makes mentally after the year we have had

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm nearly 3 weeks in from my first jab, so from a confidence perspective, it makes all the difference in the world. People shouldn't underestimate the difference it makes mentally after the year we have had

Yeah I was a bit worried about how fast they were rolled etc at the start but tbh at this stage I just don't care, I'd take anything to get life back to some sort of normality

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah I was a bit worried about how fast they were rolled etc at the start but tbh at this stage I just don't care, I'd take anything to get life back to some sort of normality

Yes, I can't wait to have some normality back.
Its going to be amazing!

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah I was a bit worried about how fast they were rolled etc at the start but tbh at this stage I just don't care, I'd take anything to get life back to some sort of normality

Bojo will be secretly shipping AZ via Rosslare after Mehole's support earlier

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Bojo will be secretly shipping AZ via Rosslare after Mehole's support earlier

I'll take it

[Christmas Dynasnow]

well thats is me 48 hours past my first jag and no after effects