[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

As things stand they only serve 40% of the sentence don’t they.. less the time they are held


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The judge decreed 50% in this case.

The 40% will only be used to help open up room in prisons likely over a short period.

Once that's done the 40% will no longer probably apply.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The judge decreed 50% in this case.

The 40% will only be used to help open up room in prisons likely over a short period.

Once that's done the 40% will no longer probably apply.

On that note .

Labour were complaining that the jails were at dangerous levels and they may have to let loads out early ..


Today after nearly 500 arrests their spokesman said there was plenty of room for all these people !!


No wonder the don’t trust governments ( all parties). !!


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

On that note .

Labour were complaining that the jails were at dangerous levels and they may have to let loads out early ..


Today after nearly 500 arrests their spokesman said there was plenty of room for all these people !!


No wonder the don’t trust governments ( all parties). !!


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There are prison places but the prisons are heading to be full.
It was the Cons who began the policy of letting prisoners out a bit earlier..
They were going to do the same thing almost exactly.

It's not a uniquely Labour thing.

IF as it was said, the prison population stayed the same, then by next year the prisons would be full.

No one ever said they were FULL now.
It was the Con govt who admitted they were now at dangerously high levels.
Labour agreed they were.

It's not as dramatic as you're making it out and only moaning at Labour as usual while skirting past the fact over 14 years, under Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss AND Sunak.
The prison population has reached dangerously high levels and expected to be full within around a year +.

The early release programme to begin in September hopefully.
Will reduce the prison population substantially.
So these being sentenced now easily accommodated thankfully.

Everywhere across the justice system it's known more places are needed in years to come.
It's not a question of trust, it's simple facts.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There are prison places but the prisons are heading to be full.
It was the Cons who began the policy of letting prisoners out a bit earlier..
They were going to do the same thing almost exactly.

It's not a uniquely Labour thing.

IF as it was said, the prison population stayed the same, then by next year the prisons would be full.

No one ever said they were FULL now.
It was the Con govt who admitted they were now at dangerously high levels.
Labour agreed they were.

It's not as dramatic as you're making it out and only moaning at Labour as usual while skirting past the fact over 14 years, under Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss AND Sunak.
The prison population has reached dangerously high levels and expected to be full within around a year +.

The early release programme to begin in September hopefully.
Will reduce the prison population substantially.
So these being sentenced now easily accommodated thankfully.

Everywhere across the justice system it's known more places are needed in years to come.
It's not a question of trust, it's simple facts.

Well a couple of weeks ago they were full to dangerous levels … nothing had changed yet today they have plenty of space for the hungry being are arrested !


So which is it .. both labour statements


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[arista]

Evil Racist

[Nicky91]

the more attention you give these riots, the longer they will continue to go on


that is what these protester trolls want, attention and likes



don't give them attention, and they'll go away being bored not getting what they want

[arista]

Good on GBnewsHD Live
showing a protest in Belfast.

Police are doing a good job of keeping
the 2 sides apart, so far.


Anti Migrants Vs the Rest

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by arista

Good on GBnewsHD Live
showing a protest in Belfast.

Police are doing a good job of keeping
the 2 sides apart, so far.


Anti Migrants Vs the Rest

Belfast could well be the biggest flashpoint in this whole episode

[bots]

Available space is not simply free space. It depends on the category of the prisinor and the availability of suitable prison staff. Therefore it's perfectly possible to make space available if the correct arrangements are made, which is basically what labour have done

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Available space is not simply free space. It depends on the category of the prisinor and the availability of suitable prison staff. Therefore it's perfectly possible to make space available if the correct arrangements are made, which is basically what labour have done

Fair enough.. if that’s true and I have no reason to doubt you


I was taking things on face value

I heard the warnings last week that jails were dangerously overcrowded and they were considering releasing hundreds early .. then today I heard on the news they suddenly had spaces for all those arrested ..

Everyone can calm down now ( not you bots)


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[Zizu]

Stateside


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[Zizu]

Mmmmm




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[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Yes PM Starmer stand by a load of screens

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes PM Starmer stand by a load of screens

Now he says communities. Before he said Muslim community only

[Zizu]

12,000 votes by now


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[arista]

PM Starmer
stand with 2 Female Cops

[arista]

[arista]

Ammi

The key to your post is he took a Knife to a Vigil.

Good the Fool was Jailed


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz79dln5xo

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Ammi

The key to your post is he took a Knife to a Vigil.

Good the Fool was Jailed


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz79dln5xo

…no, that’s not ‘the key’…the first violent attack was an existing mosque which doesn’t equate with ‘protesting about immigration concerns’…there were then ‘reports’ that the reason for the mosque being attacked was anger because a Muslim specifically had apparently been the one with a knife who had been immediately arrested …apparently that’s also not with truth and the riots were built on social media rumours and falsehoods…it’s absolutely good that the fool was jailed but that doesn’t change that the fool was never any type of key at all as any type of reasoning ….

[Parmy]

An honest appraisal of the disgusting racially motivated mindless violence in Middlesbrough.

https://youtu.be/fdanhEKXsDA?si=BbbReVuqZ04Ws-fA

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

An honest appraisal of the disgusting racially motivated mindless violence in Middlesbrough.

https://youtu.be/fdanhEKXsDA?si=BbbReVuqZ04Ws-fA

48mins long

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by arista

48mins long

It felt like 10