[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

ECHR is the baby of Churchill, to try and ensure people would be protected from a fascistic government should we ever go down the Germany route.

If you now find yourself in opposition to him and this court, you need to be aware that puts you squarely on the side on the side of fascism.

Yes, all those terrible years ago.


But we will modify a part of those rules

The Home Secretary will be Live in Parliament
today.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

So our options according to you are either, bend over and take it or you're a facist?

Quite oppressive that.

No - that incorrect framing.

Bending over and taking is hyperbolic nonsense, although it fits in with the horniness experienced on the last couple of pages.

I'm not calling anyone a fascist, just pointing out which side that puts folks on. Someone creates a court to protect your human rights, then you fight against it because it's not cruel enough towards others, that is the very thing you fear- the removal of rights to make it easier for them to make you "bend over and take it"

The fact they are busy destroying your country, your cost of living, your nhs, and they've wound folks up about cruelty to foreigners is exactly the point.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, all those terrible years ago.


But we will modify a part of those rules

The Home Secretary will be Live in Parliament
today.

You thought it was the eu, so maybe sit this one out

Modify = removal of rights. You're supporting authoritarianism whilst pretending you're all about freedom.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Someone said on the radio just now.

take the illegal people smuggled victims to Guernsey and fly them to Rwanda from there as Guernsey is not bound by the Euro court of human rights!

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You thought it was the eu, so maybe sit this one out

Modify = removal of rights. You're supporting authoritarianism whilst pretending you're all about freedom.

Rubbish
I edited that.

I was in a rush so originally just put EU


I know who the Human Rights Court are in the EU

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

No - that incorrect framing.

Bending over and taking is hyperbolic nonsense, although it fits in with the horniness experienced on the last couple of pages.

I'm not calling anyone a fascist, just pointing out which side that puts folks on. Someone creates a court to protect your human rights, then you fight against it because it's not cruel enough towards others, that is the very thing you fear- the removal of rights to make it easier for them to make you "bend over and take it"

The fact they are busy destroying your country, your cost of living, your nhs, and they've wound folks up about cruelty to foreigners is exactly the point.

We're being invaded. You can tell that by the reason all that are coming in are fighting aged men. They're not old people escaping war, they're not women and children escaping war, they're fighting aged men. They're fighting aged men that should be defending their own country, but they're not, instead they're illegally entering ours.

[Crimson Dynamo]

430 yesterday

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The european court of human rights is not the EU and never has been

same building, just down an inter-linking corridor

[The Slim Reaper]

Tories have traditionally believed in the sainthood of Churchill, the institution of the royal family, and the church.

You've been in opposition to all 3 things over the last few days, so who is really abandoning their principles?

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Tories have traditionally believed in the sainthood of Churchill, the institution of the royal family, and the church.

You've been in opposition to all 3 things over the last few days, so who is really abandoning their principles?

Yes times have changed.


East Africa is Happy to receive
these young men.


ITV news and Sky news
have to bring their reporters back, for now

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

We're being invaded. You can tell that by the reason all that are coming in are fighting aged men. They're not old people escaping war, they're not women and children escaping war, they're fighting aged men. They're fighting aged men that should be defending their own country, but they're not, instead they're illegally entering ours.

If you had to escape a warzone, for example, would you send your frail mother or your 12yr old daughter to get setup?

Would you think that you'd be best placed to make the devastatingly perilous journey?

[bots]

you only need to look at ukraine to see the difference. It's all women and children making the perilous journey to safety

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If you had to escape a warzone, for example, would you send your frail mother or your 12yr old daughter to get setup?

Would you think that you'd be best placed to make the devastatingly perilous journey?

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you only need to look at ukraine to see the difference. It's all women and children making the perilous journey to safety

precisely

[The Slim Reaper]

It's almost like situations aren't exactly the same, with a west that rolled out the red carpet for white Europeans, whereas looking at the promises made to Afghanistan versus the reality shows the truth.

Asylum isn't just about war.

[Liam-]

These flights will literally change nothing, the traffickers will still traffic because they don’t care where their customers end up, as long as they receive their money and part of the deal with Rwanda is that for every migrant we send there, we have to receive one of theirs in return, it’s not going to help being the migrant numbers down, it’s all performative art for their mild less racist base.

If anyone actually genuinely believes that this entire escapade is to try and stop traffickers and protect migrants, then I’ve got a tin of lovely tartan paint I think you’d be interested in buying.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

These flights will literally change nothing, the traffickers will still traffic because they don’t care where their customers end up, as long as they receive their money and part of the deal with Rwanda is that for every migrant we send there, we have to receive one of theirs in return, it’s not going to help being the migrant numbers down, it’s all performative art for their mild less racist base.

If anyone actually genuinely believes that this entire escapade is to try and stop traffickers and protect migrants, then I’ve got a tin of lovely tartan paint I think you’d be interested in buying.

No let's give them a chance
a Flight each week would be good


You can not review it
until it happens, Liam.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

These flights will literally change nothing, the traffickers will still traffic because they don’t care where their customers end up, as long as they receive their money and part of the deal with Rwanda is that for every migrant we send there, we have to receive one of theirs in return, it’s not going to help being the migrant numbers down, it’s all performative art for their mild less racist base.

If anyone actually genuinely believes that this entire escapade is to try and stop traffickers and protect migrants, then I’ve got a tin of lovely tartan paint I think you’d be interested in buying.

If the illegals know they are not going to the UK but Rwanda they wont want to pay (or be in debt as i dont think many pay but owe and then pay back in blackmarket jobs in the UK)

They wont want to be in debt and in Rwanda

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Tories have traditionally believed in the sainthood of Churchill, the institution of the royal family, and the church.

You've been in opposition to all 3 things over the last few days, so who is really abandoning their principles?

Chirchill's respect comes from his leadership in wartime. As a politician he wasn't that respected.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Chirchill's respect comes from his leadership in wartime. As a politician he wasn't that respected.

Good point. The greatest generation, as they're known, came back from the horrors of war against fascism and chose socialism for the country, leading to the NHS. Why do you all want to dishonour our greatest heroes by choosing fascism all over again?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Good point. The greatest generation, as they're known, came back from the horrors of war against fascism and chose socialism for the country, leading to the NHS. Why do you all want to dishonour our greatest heroes by choosing fascism all over again?

And right now the NHS is being massively underfunded because we're pouring millions of pounds into housing illegal Migrants in hotels.

[arista]

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

And right now the NHS is being massively underfunded because we're pouring millions of pounds into housing illegal Migrants in hotels.

That's not true, it's propaganda.

They've thrown billions at their mates during covid, that they wrote off rather than investigate waste.

Mays magic money tree always exists when it comes to sharing it between themselves. Even John Major warned that Boris would attack the NHS before he was elected.

[The Slim Reaper]

Also, in other countries, asylum seekers are allowed to work whilst their claims are being processed. Why not introduce that here, so they are neither a burden on the tax payer, and increase tax revenue at the same time.

I guess they can't can't be coming here for benefits and to take our jobs at the same time?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Also, in other countries, asylum seekers are allowed to work whilst their claims are being processed. Why not introduce that here, so they are neither a burden on the tax payer, and increase tax revenue at the same time.

I guess they can't can't be coming here for benefits and to take our jobs at the same time?

Why didn't they work in France then? Or any other country they passed through to get here?