[Nicky91]

Germany: thuringen region halts AstraZeneca vaccine after finding out about it causing liver problems


another new side effect from this rubbish

[parmnion]

Isnt it causing blood clots?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Isnt it causing blood clots?

that too


but now also liver problems

[Nicky91]

can imagine Germany now to be really pissed off at UK, since they only started using AZ again after new info by you guys and now this (not one, but few people who started having liver problems after the jab, in perfect health before the jab too)

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

that too


but now also liver problems

How do they know as Fact
it caused that?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

can imagine Germany now to be really pissed off at UK, since they only started using AZ again after new info by you guys and now this (not one, but few people who started having liver problems after the jab, in perfect health before the jab too)

But loads of Normal Germans are not taking the AZ Vaccine, anyway,
they claim it's out of date.


Ref :Ch4HDnews in Germany, last week.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

How do they know as Fact
it caused that?

because this particularly involves people whom were in excellent health before the jab, and after receiving that they started having those complaints

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

because this particularly involves people whom were in excellent health before the jab, and after receiving that they started having those complaints

It can be a Coincidence
meaning ,they were going to ill anyway.

[Vanessa]

The UK has done brilliantly with the vaccination rollout.
If we carry on like this we will be back to normal very soon.
That's what we want and I think it's worth to take the vaccine to protect ourselves.

[AnnieK]

At this point, I hope the whole of the EU stops using AZ. Let them wait longer to vaccinate whilst the rest of the world protects its citizens. I would like to know if anyone of the millions in the UK have had these supposed side effects and in what numbers. Its seems weird that if these effects do happen, why no one is reporting them here

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Germany: thuringen region halts AstraZeneca vaccine after finding out about it causing liver problems


another new side effect from this rubbish

Do you have a link to this?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

that too


but now also liver problems

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Do you have a link to this?

Have to second that Nicky, I just googled and nothing - and then I used a VPN to search German Google, for mentions of AZ vaccine and liver issues, in German, even trying with the specific region you mentioned, and I can't see one mention of this ANYWHERE. I'm a little baffled by the claim.

What I can find is a paper from a few years ago about a completely different drug created by AstraZeneca, that has absolutely nothing to do with the Covid vaccine, which was withdrawn after being found to cause liver issues in some people.

Might there be some confusion there?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Have to second that Nicky, I just googled and nothing - and then I used a VPN to search German Google, for mentions of AZ vaccine and liver issues, in German, even trying with the specific region you mentioned, and I can't see one mention of this ANYWHERE. I'm a little baffled by the claim.

What I can find is a paper from a few years ago about a completely different drug created by AstraZeneca, that has absolutely nothing to do with the Covid vaccine, which was withdrawn after being found to cause liver issues in some people.

Might there be some confusion there?

I'd tried numerous different search terms too and can't find anything.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

because this particularly involves people whom were in excellent health before the jab, and after receiving that they started having those complaints

That just sounds like street talk .

Any links or evidence ?


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[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I'd tried numerous different search terms too and can't find anything.

For a paranoid second I started to believe that Nicky might be right and the UK might be putting a block on these stories filtering into the country, that's why I used a German proxy and tried searching "as if I was a German in Germany". Still nothing

The story about the AZ medication from a few years back causing liver issues does come up quite a bit though - so I suspect maybe that's what's happened, someone has seen that and thought it was about the vaccine not realising that AZ as a pharma company has made many different medications.

[Ammi]

Ireland should suspend AstraZeneca vaccine over clotting concerns, health authority says......

Ireland should temporarily halt its use of the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab after some reports of blood clots in vaccinated people, health authorities say.

A statement from Ireland's Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Dr Ronan Glynn, said: "Following new information received from the Norwegian Medicines Agency on Saturday evening 13th March and following discussions with the Health Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA), the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) has recommended that the administration of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca be temporarily deferred from this morning, Sunday 14th March.

"This recommendation has been made following a report from the Norwegian Medicines Agency of four new reports of serious blood clotting events in adults after vaccination with COVID-19 vaccine AstraZeneca.

"It has not been concluded that there is any link between the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca and these cases.

"However, acting on the precautionary principal, and pending receipt of further information, the NIAC has recommended the temporary deferral of the COVID-19 vaccine AstraZeneca vaccination programme in Ireland.

"The NIAC is due to meet again this morning. A further statement will follow thereafter."

[AnnieK]

I'm struggling to see why an unsubstantiated link between the vaccine and blood clots would pause the most important vaccination drive in recent history. I worry this is a smear campaign emanating from the EUs saltiness at their delays and mishandling and they want to de-stabilise the UK efforts by casting doubts on the vaccine

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I'm struggling to see why an unsubstantiated link between the vaccine and blood clots would pause the most important vaccination drive in recent history. I worry this is a smear campaign emanating from the EUs saltiness at their delays and mishandling and they want to de-stabilise the UK efforts by casting doubts on the vaccine

That's quite the conspiracy theory Annie

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's quite the conspiracy theory Annie

It is Niamh which is why I said I worry....not that it was fact After the campaign of fear that Merkel and Macron pulled though I am sceptical of what comes out.

If there is actual scientific proof of a direct link I will eat my words but its worrying that there is no direct proof at all.

It may be too close to home as my Dad had the AZ vaccine and I worry enough about him without another layer of worry to add but I just find it strange that these blood clots are not happening in the millions of vaccines administered in the UK and there are no whispers of it.

[Niamh.]

The blood clot reports are coming from Norway though which aren't even a part of the EU.

[Ammi]

...I’m thinking that most people will be fine with the AZ vaccine but if there medical reasons why it should be slowed down in its administration for the moment then it’s best to follow that...rather than to continue on with it...it’s surely just so that those few deaths can be looked into more closely...

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I’m thinking that most people will be fine with the AZ vaccine but if there medical reasons why it should be slowed down in its administration for the moment then it’s best to follow that...rather than to continue on with it...it’s surely just so that those few deaths can be looked into more closely...

The thing is there aren't medical reasons and it seems that medical authorities even within the EU are not recommending slowing down vaccination unless some medical evidence of an issue does emerge... the decision to halt use seems to be coming from the political side not the medical side. Whether that's because of a genuine concern and "playing it safe" or for PR reasons I don't know, but it definitely seems to be coming from the politicians more than the medics.

[bitontheslide]

it's such an unusual circumstance, vaccinating millions around the planet. Each county with it's own medical practices and medical authorities. Usually its children that are vaccinated in the greatest numbers and they are excluded from this at the moment.

Politics is way too involved in it, and there is too much infighting between countries/states. The EU have behaved dreadfully, I think. That's been the biggest eye opener for me.

We need to be guided by science. If there is direct medical proof that a vaccine resulted in a death, then it should be documented and the medical authorities should decide on the action necessary. There are way to many separate agendas going on for my liking.

I'm vaccinated, I am very glad to have been vaccinated, ultimately, that's all that matters to me

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Have to second that Nicky, I just googled and nothing - and then I used a VPN to search German Google, for mentions of AZ vaccine and liver issues, in German, even trying with the specific region you mentioned, and I can't see one mention of this ANYWHERE. I'm a little baffled by the claim.

What I can find is a paper from a few years ago about a completely different drug created by AstraZeneca, that has absolutely nothing to do with the Covid vaccine, which was withdrawn after being found to cause liver issues in some people.

Might there be some confusion there?

i've read it

you probably don't understand german

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i've read it

you probably don't understand german

Post the link Nicky please, we can use the translate function