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Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:26 AM

I swear if someone else pulls the mother card out to try and shut down another poster then I'm infracting

InOne · 07-10-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I swear if someone else pulls the mother card out to try and shut down another poster then I'm infracting

Yeah it's pretty annoying lol

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I swear if someone else pulls the mother card out to try and shut down another poster then I'm infracting

I hope you're joking

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

I hope you're joking

they put a giggle smilie up which means there joking i think.

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

they put a giggle smilie up which means there joking i think.

Seriously hope so.

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:28 AM

I'd love to know the infraction reason. "Disagreeing with a mod - I infracted you" ???

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

I'd love to know the infraction reason. "Disagreeing with a mod - I infracted you" ???

Lucy. · 07-10-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

I'd love to know the infraction reason. "Disagreeing with a mod - I infracted you" ???

How about using insults about people's age and telling them when and when not to post just because their not mothers?

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucy.

How about using insults about people's age and telling them when and when not to post just because their not mothers?

I said grow up. Even if you were twelve you can act it.

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:31 AM

It was a joke but it is seriously annoying, if you can't debate with someone without acting all superior saying that we don't know because we're not parents then you might as well leave as that's not a debate, try and actually argue the points instead of just going 'You're not a parent you don't understand'.

It's a cheap and annoying copout.

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

It was a joke but it is seriously annoying, if you can't debate with someone without acting all superior saying that we don't know because we're not parents then you might as well leave as that's not a debate, try and actually argue the points instead of just going 'You're not a parent you don't understand'.

It's a cheap and annoying copout.

It's annoying for those of us that are parents. I've not screamed at the report button yet though

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

It's annoying for those of us that are parents. I've not screamed at the report button yet though

Why? because we're not instantly agreeing with you? What's there to report? 'Oh they don't agree with me'.

Just because you're a parent doesn't make you any smarter or knowledgeable on the subject of the law system then anyone else. Lily is a parent and a very good one at that but in her posts she never shut anyone down because of it, she said her piece and let others speak.

Shutting people down using the mother card is denying them the right to debate whether you say it isn't or not.

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Why? because we're not instantly agreeing with you? What's there to report? 'Oh they don't agree with me'.

Just because you're a parent doesn't make you any smarter or knowledgeable on the subject of the law system then anyone else. Lily is a parent and a very good one at that but in her posts she never shut anyone down because of it, she said her piece and let others speak.

Shutting people down using the mother card is denying them the right to debate whether you say it isn't or not.

I've not reported a thing

And I've not shut people out (LUCY included). I'm simply debating

Lee. · 07-10-2010, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

It was a joke but it is seriously annoying, if you can't debate with someone without acting all superior saying that we don't know because we're not parents then you might as well leave as that's not a debate, try and actually argue the points instead of just going 'You're not a parent you don't understand'.

It's a cheap and annoying copout.

Dezzy, it really isn't about acting superior and it certainly isn't a copout.. As a mother, I would want anyone who seriously harmed my children dead. I can't help it, it's just how I feel. I think most, if not all parents would probably feel the same.

setanta · 07-10-2010, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by happyland

Dezzy, it really isn't about acting superior and it certainly isn't a copout.. As a mother, I would want anyone who seriously harmed my children dead. I can't help it, it's just how I feel. I think most, if not all parents would probably feel the same.

Yes, I'm aware of that Lee, and I'd feel exactly the same if it were anyone I loved that was harmed, but we'll get nowhere as a society if we hand out retribution in that manner, particularly since this problem wont go away with one Paedo killed by the relatives of the victim, you know? There's plenty more out there and are we to deal with all of our social taboos and criminals in that way?

Lee. · 07-10-2010, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by setanta

Yes, I'm aware of that Lee, and I'd feel exactly the same if it were anyone I loved that was harmed, but we'll get nowhere as a society if we hand out retribution in that manner, particularly since this problem wont go away with one Paedo killed by the relatives of the victim, you know? There's plenty more out there and are we to deal with all of our social taboos and criminals in that way?

We're getting nowhere as a society as we are! It's just a joke! The whole justice system is a shambles!

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 01:34 AM

it is getting annoying about the parent thing now.

but seriously the lefties that think murderers and pedophiles deserve to be living have killed this country.

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

it is getting annoying about the parent thing now.

but seriously the lefties that think murderers and pedophiles deserve to be living have killed this country.

The country would just flourish if we murdered anyone suspected of being a criminal now wouldn't it?

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

The country would just flourish if we murdered anyone suspected of being a criminal now wouldn't it?

im on about ones that have been proven guilty.

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

im on about ones that have been proven guilty.

and what would that achieve? Capital Punishment has never had a positive effect on crime rates.

Beastie · 07-10-2010, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

The country would just flourish if we murdered anyone suspected of being a criminal now wouldn't it?

If the murderer is a murderer and is 100% PROVEN then I don't care if they are killed.

I think LIFE in prison for MOST offenders if the best option!!

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:41 AM

Think I'll go and enjoy the rest of my night.....

setanta · 07-10-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by thebeast

If the murderer is a murderer and is 100% PROVEN then I don't care if they are killed.

I think LIFE in prison for MOST offenders if the best option!!

You should watch a great documentary about how many errors in justice that have been made in the States throughout the years, but sure the innocent prisoners have already been executed. It happens. Anways, that's me going off on a tangent there.

Beastie · 07-10-2010, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by setanta

You should watch a great documentary about how many errors in justice that have been made in the States throughout the years, but sure the innocent prisoners have already been executed. It happens. Anways, that's me going off on a tangent there.

Okay.. then in some cases.. okay capital punishment may be wrong.. but like I said.. LIFE IN PRISON sentences should be increased......

Angus · 07-10-2010, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

The country would just flourish if we murdered anyone suspected of being a criminal now wouldn't it?

That's a disingenuous statement - who said anything about killing "suspected" criminals. How about confining punishment to "convicted" ones? I guarantee the country would indeed flourish if we cleared out the PROVEN murderers, rapists and paedophiles.

Since execution is no longer an option, how about actually locking them up and throwing away the key. In fact the shortness of sentences has less to do with the moralistic arguments of being compassionate blah blah blah, and more to do with the economics of keeping these criminals long term in jail. That's the bottom line, and why there is no morality in the judicial system. Criminals who have committed the most horrendous crimes are freed to re-offend because it costs too much to keep them locked up, and since extermination is not an option what else is there?

Not one dissenter on here has given any viable options.

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