[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm stunned that some get so horrified about name calling for instance when it comes to ashleigh, helen has been called '*****' 'slag' 'slut' 'ugly' 'vile' 'tramp' for 2 months solid.
That annoys me,I dislike double standards.

I've spent most of the series defending Helen and people throwing around sexist terminology like '*****' and 'slut and to stop questioning her parenting skills

It's not a one or the other issue and going 'well no one defends this housemate so we can insult another!!!!!!' isn't helping. Nobody should be insulting housemates appearances and that's the bottom line of it. Big Brother is a show about personalities, not the way people look so there shouldn't be any reason why people are talking about that.

This isn't a new thing, this isn't just because it's Ashleigh. I defended Becky a few years ago when she was constantly insulted about her weight, same with Jack and Joe last year. I defended Sam when his disability was mocked (and I couldn't stand him), I defended Gina for the same insults Ashleigh receives. This list goes on. There's just no need for it no matter who it is

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I've spent most of the series defending Helen and people throwing around sexist terminology like '*****' and 'slut and to stop questioning her parenting skills

It's not a one or the other issue and going 'well no one defends this housemate so we can insult another!!!!!!' isn't helping. Nobody should be insulting housemates appearances and that's the bottom line of it. Big Brother is a show about personalities, not the way people look so there shouldn't be any reason why people are talking about that.

This isn't a new thing, this isn't just because it's Ashleigh. I defended Becky a few years ago when she was constantly insulted about her weight, same with Jack and Joe last year. I defended Sam when his disability was mocked (and I couldn't stand him), I defended Gina for the same insults Ashleigh receives. This list goes on. There's just no need for it no matter who it is

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LukeB

making comments about acne is just as worst. its a skin condition and it offends me because i suffur from it

They're all on the same level, just because they're aimed at someone you dislike, doesn't make them okay and it never will, blatant double standards yet again

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

if it was aimed at helen or ash i would still get offended, i come on here not to feel ashamed about having acne

And nobody came here with the intent to make you feel ashamed about your acne...
You took it upon yourself to turn an off the cuff remark into a personally offensive comment luke.
How would anyone on here have the first idea what you look like?

What about the comments about housemates being fat or skinny? Nobody suggests they are affected as they themselves are fat or thin do they? We can't know that might affect the sensibilities of some.

[chuff me dizzy]

Its ok to post a photo of Helen after she had been beat up ? not just once but several times

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its ok to post a photo of Helen after she had been beat up ? not just once but several times

Is it okay to call Ashleigh '*******igh', not just once but many times?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its ok to post a photo of Helen after she had been beat up ? not just once but several times

That's a very good point, im pretty sure i saw a comment before saying she looked just as bad before the incident as she did after it

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its ok to post a photo of Helen after she had been beat up ? not just once but several times

BOOM way to go Chuff even more double standards

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And nobody came here with the intent to make you feel ashamed about your acne...
You took it upon yourself to turn an off the cuff remark into a personally offensive comment luke.
How would anyone on here have the first idea what you look like?

What about the comments about housemates being fat or skinny? Nobody suggests they are affected as they themselves are fat or thin do they? We can't know that might affect the sensibilities of some.

apperance and weight should never be commented on anyway to be honest some people are sensitive about it. i know it wasn't ment towards me but doesn't mean it wont offend me.

[LukeB]

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Oh typical ,yuk,backstabbing again was she?

[Kizzy]

Ah say what you like to attempt to justify it, it doesn't make it right. Making judgements on the characters of HMs and moralising is offensive, questioning her parenting is offensive.
You can't cherry pick what's deemed the greater slur.

[billy123]

This has become absolutely pathetic the last few days.
There are rules already in place about discussion of fans and making over the top comments about housemates.
If you think the line has been crossed report it and move on with your life.

The derailing of every thread with this same discussion by the same members in an attempt to try and defend a housemate is just ****ing ridiculous now.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

This has become absolutely pathetic the last few days.
There are rules already in place about discussion of fans and making over the top comments about housemates.
If you think the line has been crossed report it and move on with your life.

The derailing of every thread with this same discussion by the same members in an attempt to try and defend a housemate is just ****ing ridiculous now.

[EdemMusic]

Ashleigh is not hated, she is the favourite to win in most polls. What gave you that impression?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by EdemMusic

Ashleigh is not hated, she is the favourite to win in most polls. What gave you that impression?

The very vocal minority that constantly discuss her maybe?

You are right though. She is the favourite. She's slaying every online poll going and kept being voted for all the good stuff on the apps.

[cheapbbfan]

Love her!

[Lostie!]

Hated? Ashleigh is probably the most popular housemate, and I say this as someone who (though I like her) has grown irritated by her recently.

There's always tons of support for her, on here and other places, so I don't see why people have to make a big thing out of any criticism she receives.

Sorry, I'm not trying to have a go at anyone, but I do sometimes feel that some of her fans act like she's receiving tons of hostility and she's some kind of underdog with the public, but that's not true. Ash, Helen, Pav and Chris all get more negativity than she does out here at the moment, and the positivity towards her far outweigh what she does get. I mean, it's the same with the reaction to Pav not having positive words for her, people ignored the fact that she never had time for him either and concentrated on the fact that she was receiving criticism, even from someone she'd had plenty to say about herself.

So, yeah, I don't see how she's "hated" if we're using the term to describe someone who gets mainly bad feedback from the viewers.

[wormsinfested]

Because most of the show she has been like this:

[Kizzy]

Yes I reported it, mocking a picture of an injured HM isn't the best way to show your support for another HM is it?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes I reported it, mocking a picture of an injured HM isn't the best way to show your support for another HM is it?

No, it's very bad form

[M X]

Helen hates Ashleigh because she is everything that Helen wishes she was.

Classy, young, intelligent, naturally beautiful, and popular.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Helen hates Ashleigh because she is everything that Helen wishes she was.

Classy, young, intelligent, naturally beautiful, and popular.

If it aint reaching, stretch it further......................lol

If Helen is anything like most 28 year olds, she'd hate to be 18 again!

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

If it aint reaching, stretch it further......................lol

If Helen is anything like most 28 year olds, she'd hate to be 18 again!

Especially if she had to do all over again what she did before.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Especially if she had to do all over again what she did before.

People make mistakes in life and usually it is our mistakes that make us better people in the end

Unfortunately for Ashleigh, she behaves like a child because she is

She still lives with her Mum, nothing wrong with that, I did til I was 22, but I knew f..k all

She cant appreciate life til she has had to live it for herself, she has much to learn and I hope someone teaches her pretty damn quick!!