[Marsh.]

And certainly not by you.

[Rob!]

I'm pretty sure he's automated. He's being saying exactly the same thing for weeks. Maybe if whoever sticks money into his back to keep him talking gave some money to channel 5, then there'd be a live feed

[Marsh.]

It's the most popular show on Channel 5

Like saying your "King of the Shed". The fact that "channel 5" is part of that sentence says everything.

Most popular on channel 5 = not very popular at all = no interest = no money

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Like saying your "King of the Shed". The fact that "channel 5" is part of that sentence says everything.

You can't expect it to be as popular as shows on other channels.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

You can't expect it to be as popular as shows on other channels.

I don't expect it to.

But I expect a show that was once a part of those popular channels and now retired to channel 5 to have a severely reduced budget and smaller viewers resulting in a very different show to the one it was before. Live feed being a part of that.

So you can't expect the show to be in anyway similar to the one it was before when it comes to its interactivity.

The things they CAN change however such as the basic nominations format and the twists are a much more solvable problem at the moment. Then maybe in the future other things can be addressed before they're spending money they haven't got.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But I expect a show that was once a part of those popular channels and now retired to channel 5 to have a severely reduced budget and smaller viewers resulting in a very different show to the one it was before. Live feed being a part of that

So you can't expect the show to be in anyway similar to the one it was before.

I can actually. Providing they make the cuts where they need to and concentrate on what actually made the show work. Unfortunately they've cut what actually made the show work. And it is dying year after year now as a result of it.

And I don't accept that a live feed costs that much to run anyway.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

I can actually. Providing they make the cuts where they need to and concentrate on what actually made the show work. Unfortunately they've cut what actually made the show work. And it is dying year after year now as a result of it.

And where else do you suggest they get the money from as the show is on the bones of its arse and resorted to hiring X Factor joke acts as presenters and decorating the house with buckets of glitter.

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

And I don't accept that a live feed costs that much to run anyway.

This 8 page thread tells me that.

[Marsh.]

Figures? No? Can't provide anything.

Coming from the person who's come to the conclusion it's cheap based off other countries having it.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Coming from the person who's come to the conclusion it's cheap based off other countries having it.

If every other country can do it there's no reason why this country cannot.

And again, you still are yet to provide any info on the website or the sort of interest there really is in the live feed. You just seem to take it for granted that the people making decisions for this show know what they're doing, which given the state it is in is an amusing idea.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

If every other country can do it there's no reason why this country cannot.

Again, anyone CAN do it. Doesn't mean they will.

I COULD work for free, doesn't mean I'm going to.

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

And again, you still are yet to provide any info on the website or the sort of interest there really is in the live feed. You just seem to take it for granted that the people making decisions for this show know what they're doing, which given the state it is in is an amusing idea.

No, I do not.

I look at the fact that the show is not popular whatsoever so any investment in things like live feed is a waste of time and money. There's barely an audience. That is a fact.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Again, anyone CAN do it. Doesn't mean they will.

What are you on about?

I COULD work for free, doesn't mean I'm going to.

I'm sure the people working on the live coverage in other countries aren't working for free either. And yet they find a way to do it in all these other countries.

No, I do not.

Yes you do.

I look at the fact that the show is not popular whatsoever

Could have been. 2.93 million for the BB13 launch... Could have tried to keep more of them sticking around, but they couldn't.

so any investment in things like live feed is a waste of time. There's barely an audience.

So you keep saying. And the more they ignore the requests of the fans the less of an audience there will be. Good business plan.

[Marsh.]

As said earlier it's not even the cost, it's whether it's worth the set up for the amount of interest. BB has next to no interest to many people.

But, yeah, life is so simple just get that man to click a button, that magic red button over there. Go on.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

As said earlier it's not even the cost, it's whether it's worth the set up for the amount of interest. BB has next to no interest to many people.

So you keep saying. And less and less interest as they continue to ignore the requests of the fans. The surest way to run any business into the ground.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

So you keep saying. And less and less interest as they continue to ignore the requests of the fans. The surest way to run any business into the ground.

Yes, because people turned away because of no live feed and not because they're simply bored with Big Brother?

Nobody believes that.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, because people turned away because of no live feed and not because they're simply bored with Big Brother?

Turned away because they promised the return of a show they couldn't deliver on. Turned away because it's impossible to get know the people and therefore to care about them. Turned away because having taken away all the immediacy of the show they now rely on desperate stunts that put viewers off. That's the real cost of no live coverage whatsoever. A dead end show.

[Mystic Mock]

If Ch5 brought Live Feed back on the Internet this is the ways that you could get ratings back, plus see the quality improve.

1. Advertise everywhere on billboards and none stop on the TV Channels, and maybe try and get a few Radio Stations, and the Newspapers to promote the hell out of it.

2. Live Feed means not as much scripted TOWIE moments, as long as they don't do a BBCAN and constantly take the Live Feed down that is.

3. No stupid Launch Night twists more than likely as people can just go on the Live Feed service on the Internet and watch the house unfold, Ch5 only do the Launch Night twists so to make sure that an audience sticks around for the next couple of days.

[Marsh.]

I love how all countries are exactly the same with exactly the same circumstances/shows/budgets/viewers/producers/aims etc etc

How simple life is here.

[the_answers]

Get the impression the current format is trying to appeal to many people.
Bit of a twist here, some pysch on the couch there, bit of glam there.

Now I quite like that !
And think it's doing ok (enjoyed the show tonight !).
But maybe (like noms !) problem is, it's sending out mixed messages.

Like tonight we see Cristian unanimously selected as "the one to go" on BOTS.
Even though he pretty much made tonights HL show.

Or there's healthy intellectual panel debate and free opinion on BOTS. (yes there is !)
Mixed in with an audience screaming to get a HM out.

Don't mind some twists as they sometimes provide good fun and entertainment.
But sometimes the twists go too far too.

Some say showmances are killing the show.
Yet the HL focus on them !
As a result HM are more interested in hooking up for airtime to protect themselves.
Then suprise suprise, back to the problem why the show isn't "entertaining" enough.

In all these things there's enough room to attract people from all different walks.
Or alternatively, put them all off !
Even those who enjoy showmances must sometimes get sick of the fumbling under the covers.

While I'm definitely interested in HMs, I've no desire to watch 3 hours live feed with cagy HM giving nothing away just so they can win.
But equally, I've little desire to watch a poorly edited HL show either.

So maybe the potential IS there and it's all about execution rather than any format.
It's frustrating cos it's so close to being a great show. (well it still is in many ways)

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by the_answers

Get the impression the current format is trying to appeal to many people.
Bit of a twist here, some pysch on the couch there, bit of glam there.

Now I quite like that !
And think it's doing ok (enjoyed the show tonight !).
But maybe (like noms !) problem is, it's sending out mixed messages.

Like tonight we see Cristian unanimously selected as "the one to go" on BOTS.
Even though he pretty much made tonights HL show.

Or there's healthy intellectual panel debate and free opinion on BOTS. (yes there is !)
Mixed in with an audience screaming to get a HM out.

Don't mind some twists as they sometimes provide good fun and entertainment.
But sometimes the twists go too far too.

Some say showmances are killing the show.
Yet the HL focus on them !
As a result HM are more interested in hooking up for airtime to protect themselves.
Then suprise suprise, back to the problem why the show isn't "entertaining" enough.

In all these things there's enough room to attract people from all different walks.
Or alternatively, put them all off !
Even those who enjoy showmances must sometimes get sick of the fumbling under the covers.

While I'm definitely interested in HMs, I've no desire to watch 3 hours live feed with cagy HM giving nothing away just so they can win.
But equally, I've little desire to watch a poorly edited HL show either.

So maybe the potential IS there and it's all about execution rather than any format.
It's frustrating cos it's so close to being a great show. (well it still is in many ways)

Is this a poem?

[Mystic Mock]

The thing is the show is gonna die on this format, Ch5 should at least give a Live Feed Big Brother a chance just to see how it goes, I honestly don't see why that would hurt them so much?

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The thing is the show is gonna die on this format, Ch5 should at least give a Live Feed Big Brother a chance just to see how it goes, I honestly don't see why that would hurt them so much?

I want live feed - its the best

[Parmy]

and this is a fans forum..lol.