[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No comment on the subject, just a bit of baiting. That seems to be the appeal of SD atm for some.

Good bit of baiting on your part. Pot and kettle.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Again that's just a silly thing to say for just relaying British history Jet. It's always the same when there is any injustice past or present that involves the British it's downplayed...

The anglo- Irish agreement was rejected by many due the many issues it had Corbyn wasn't alone in his condemnation of that.

Condemnation isn't the problem - it is those that see terrorism as justification for their condemnation that is the problem. He supports terrorism and is therefore very worthy of condemnation himself on that basis. Total bloody hypocrite.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Condemnation isn't the problem - it is those that see terrorism as justification for their condemnation that is the problem. He supports terrorism and is therefore very worthy of condemnation himself on that basis. Total bloody hypocrite.

Who are propping up our government atm?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who are propping up our government atm?

That is a situation that was enabled via politics - and needed to keep the likes of Corbyn and his IRA friends out. What were they supposed to do just let them in? Wasn't much of a choice was there.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That is a situation that was enabled via politics - and needed to keep the likes of Corbyn and his IRA friends out. What were they supposed to do just let them in? Wasn't much of a choice was there.

What does that even mean?... It ok to allow parties with proven links to terrorist organisations into positions of power 'because politics'? :/

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

True, and there will be widespread condemnation of the Irish as there is already for the Scots, it's always struck me why those who profess to be 'British' take so much pleasure from mocking the other countries in the union :/

In another thread we are asked how patriotic we are, being English I hand on heart can't say I am ... mainly due to issues like this, this piece of the world is outrs! ...we colonised there to save the savages... people of that faith are undesirable. :/

English superiority complex is fully responsible for the collapse of the empire. Had the English been prepared to see others as equals, more meaningful commonwealth might have been created.
The same for the UK. If the English carry on like before, Scotland may decide to secede. Can you imagine the humiliation? From controlling big chunk of the globe to a rump state in less than a century?
UK should have become a fully federal state ages ago, with Wales and Scotland fully equal to England.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

English superiority complex is fully responsible for the collapse of the empire. Had the English been prepared to see others as equals, more meaningful commonwealth might have been created.
The same for the UK. If the English carry on like before, Scotland may decide to secede. Can you imagine the humiliation? From controlling big chunk of the globe to a rump state in less than a century?
UK should have become a fully federal state ages ago, with Wales and Scotland fully equal to England.

If it makes anyone feel better, I don't think many people in the US realize the two are intertwined. We only know Mexico is our colorful britches and that Canada protects us from the likes of Sarah Palin

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What does that even mean?... It ok to allow parties with proven links to terrorist organisations into positions of power 'because politics'? :/

You would have been ok with it if labour had needed Sinn Fein to get a majority - don’t try to deny it. You are just bitter the Tories held that labour madman at bay once again.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You would have been ok with it if labour had needed Sinn Fein to get a majority - don’t try to deny it. You are just bitter the Tories held that labour madman at bay once again.

Hmmm, I can’t remember the DUP blowing up and killing and maiming men, children, women and pregnant women in England either.
Whereas the IRA were.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Hmmm, I can’t remember the DUP blowing up and killing and maiming men, children, women and pregnant women in England either.
Whereas the IRA were.

Indeed Smudgie. It’s just a diversion tactic and jumping on bandwagons.

[jet]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Hmmm, I can’t remember the DUP blowing up and killing and maiming men, children, women and pregnant women in England either.
Whereas the IRA were.

Yes, and Sinn Fein, were the political wing of the IRA and their former leader, Gerry Adams, was in the IRA and sat on its army council. . The late Martin McGuiness was a Commander in the IRA and was elevated to a position of power when he became Deputy First Minister of N.Ireland. Sinn Fein's ranks include convicted murderers and still do to this day.

Labour's Corbyn is a great friend of Sinn Fein, particularly Gerry Adams and was an avid IRA supporter, but that's okay to some - the hypocrisy is staggering.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Indeed Smudgie. It’s just a diversion tactic and jumping on bandwagons.

Indeed. Divert, divert, divert. Anything to take the heat off Corbyn, or as my friend calls him, 'the hobo with a tie.'

[Kizzy]

* disregards the red berets, the UVF, Ulster resistance.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jet

Indeed. Divert, divert, divert. Anything to take the heat off Corbyn, or as my friend calls him, 'the hobo with a tie.'

A fraudulent hobo! Maybe he should give up his MP salary to provide to those in need. He is only fooling those who will not see.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

* disregards the red berets, the UVF, Ulster resistance.

The UVF came into existence again in retaliation to IRA killings. The Prods were never going to sit back and let the IRA bombers get on with it. Thanks to the IRA, Catholics were being murdered by the UVF and the IRA.

To make a direct comparsion to Gerry Adams, Sinn Fein and Corbyn, picture this flip of the coin scenario:
Arlene Foster or Peter Robinson of the DUP would have had to be in the UVF, ordering killings, which they weren't, and Theresa May would have had to support the UVF, invite them to the Commons to sip tea 2 weeks after murdering 5 people and injuring over 30 at a Labour Party conference and have a recorded archival attendance at over 70 of their rallies and funerals.

Would you defend and ignore THAT, because that is what you are doing with Corbyn and his cronies.