[DouglasS]

She isn’t set made. She was born into a business from a child and her mother and Kim are both completely responsible for her having her business. She wouldn’t even have a fraction of a billion of it wasn’t for them, fact.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

She isn’t set made. She was born into a business from a child and her mother and Kim are both completely responsible for her having her business. She wouldn’t even have a fraction of a billion of it wasn’t for them, fact.

Exactly right ... plus she’s got so much plastic in her she’s a flipping fire hazard !



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[Elliot]

Self made is a bit of a stretch but good for her?

[michael21]

I would take total marry her

[Redway]

Originally Posted by michael21

I would take total marry her

Think you’ve got to have the mental capacity of a 16-year-old to marry.

[JerseyWins]

Only person in that family that's a "self-made" multi-million/billionaire story is Kim and the main contributing factor for that was from a porn clip

No shade though, it's impressive what they do and how much money they make anyway. I'm sure they also work hard to earn what they do and Kylie Jenner for example is easily surpassing anything given to her... but it's just not "self-made" worthy when so much is just handed to you at such a young age.

[Tony Montana]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Only person in that family that's a "self-made" multi-million/billionaire story is Kim and the main contributing factor for that was from a porn clip

[Stevieb]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Only person in that family that's a "self-made" multi-million/billionaire story is Kim and the main contributing factor for that was from a porn clip

No shade though, it's impressive what they do and how much money they make anyway. I'm sure they also work hard to earn what they do and Kylie Jenner for example is easily surpassing anything given to her... but it's just not "self-made" worthy when so much is just handed to you at such a young age.

KJ is seriously deluded dumb and dishonest if she actually believes she is “self-made”. Her family’s money was and is her bank.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Stevieb

KJ is seriously deluded dumb and dishonest if she actually believes she is “self-made”. Her family’s money was and is her bank.

nope she didn't invest her family's money into her company tbh


but what she earned herself through modelling

[Stevieb]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

nope she didn't invest her family's money into her company tbh


but what she earned herself through modelling

Can’t believe you actually believe that. Her families money and name put her where she is today. Without that she would probably be waitressing or something.

[AnnieK]

She's done well but starting a business when you have money is totally different from someone who is truly self made, someone who has to put their house as collateral, someone for whom if the business fails loses everything. Kylie didn't have those worries. She's done well with the business and her products are popular, not because of what they are but because of who she is. Her business is Kardashian Inc, not By Kylie (or whatever its called).

[Marsh.]

It's not even just in the money sense that she's not self made.

The money she's made on top of anything she was given has only occurred because of the fame/name of her family. So she's done diddly-squat on her own.

I'm sure she works hard, but a billionaire making business woman she is not.

[Elliot]

I thought Kendal Jenner was the model or supermodel or w/e, what happened to her lol

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Elliot

I thought Kendal Jenner was the model or supermodel or w/e, what happened to her lol

she is a supermodel yeah, but Kylie did some modelling too before she founded her cosmetics company

[user104658]

I believe that she established her cosmetics line with her own capital, but it's capital she made off of her family name and by virtue of "Being A Kardashian" in the first place, and also, the company took off with ease because she was already an established "social media influencer" and thus had a huge marketplace ready to buy her product before she even started, and with little to zero advertising.

Its a self made business in a sense, as it was built without the backing of a company or investor, but as an individual neither she nor her image were "self made" BEFORE she started the business, so it's not really possible to describe the overall fortune as self-made. She might have built the rocket ship but her family gifted her the launchpad.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I believe that she established her cosmetics line with her own capital, but it's capital she made off of her family name and by virtue of "Being A Kardashian" in the first place, and also, the company took off with ease because she was already an established "social media influencer" and thus had a huge marketplace ready to buy her product before she even started, and with little to zero advertising.

Its a self made business in a sense, as it was built without the backing of a company or investor, but as an individual neither she nor her image were "self made" BEFORE she started the business, so it's not really possible to describe the overall fortune as self-made. She might have built the rocket ship but her family gifted her the launchpad.

so bit more self made than a Trump, who did get 2 to 3 million from his daddy to start up his business


and also Mark Zuckerberg isn't that ''self made'' either, bit of a well off family, with him having went to harvard, some of his friends came up with the facebook idea so i've read


Kylie owns 100% of her company, so it is her money she makes from it, not her family


she definitely has proven she's a lot smarter than most were thinking she'd be

[Stevieb]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

so bit more self made than a Trump, who did get 2 to 3 million from his daddy to start up his business


and also Mark Zuckerberg isn't that ''self made'' either, bit of a well off family, with him having went to harvard, some of his friends came up with the facebook idea so i've read


Kylie owns 100% of her company, so it is her money she makes from it, not her family


she definitely has proven she's a lot smarter than most were thinking she'd be

Who said Trump was self-made? Do you think KK actually does any of the real work, that that requires intelligence and creativity, she pays others for that. She is just the name on the product raking in the profits. Definitely never will be self-made.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

so bit more self made than a Trump, who did get 2 to 3 million from his daddy to start up his business





and also Mark Zuckerberg isn't that ''self made'' either, bit of a well off family, with him having went to harvard, some of his friends came up with the facebook idea so i've read





Kylie owns 100% of her company, so it is her money she makes from it, not her family





she definitely has proven she's a lot smarter than most were thinking she'd be

The truth is that very few (very) wealthy people are truly self made Nicky. That's not to say that self made individuals don't exist but usually they're more in the realms of "have done well for themselves", maybe even "low" millionaire status but when you're talking hundreds of millions / billions, the sad fact is that it's usually established dynasties involved somewhere, at least enough wealth to have gone to good schools / universities / "met the right people" (it's not what you know it's WHO you know, etc.)

The Kardashians as a unit HAVE, to be fair, greatly exceeded traditional expectations... Essentially by being at the cutting edge of the "influencer gold rush" - social media monetisation is a brand new industry and they were some of the early pioneers and have been overwhelmingly successful - but Kylie as an individual has benefitted immensely from the success of the family unit and brand and simply COULD NOT be where she is today purely on individual merit and entrepreneurship.

Yes she has done extremely well to capitalise to such an extent on the opportunities presented to her, it IS impressive in its own right, but they were not by any stretch self-driven opportunities.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The truth is that very few (very) wealthy people are truly self made Nicky. That's not to say that self made individuals don't exist but usually they're more in the realms of "have done well for themselves", maybe even "low" millionaire status but when you're talking hundreds of millions / billions, the sad fact is that it's usually established dynasties involved somewhere, at least enough wealth to have gone to good schools / universities / "met the right people" (it's not what you know it's WHO you know, etc.)

The Kardashians as a unit HAVE, to be fair, greatly exceeded traditional expectations... Essentially by being at the cutting edge of the "influencer gold rush" - social media monetisation is a brand new industry and they were some of the early pioneers and have been overwhelmingly successful - but Kylie as an individual has benefitted immensely from the success of the family unit and brand and simply COULD NOT be where she is today purely on individual merit and entrepreneurship.

Yes she has done extremely well to capitalise to such an extent on the opportunities presented to her, it IS impressive in its own right, but they were not by any stretch self-driven opportunities.

i doubt anyone can become a billionaire on their own


Oprah from the bottom to successful yeah ok, but still if she wasn't an actress first of all at start of her career, she wouldn't have gotten a sort of fanbase which helped her make her talkshow so successful

and also she took the opportunities she was given


the color purple truly kickstarted oprah's career honestly, and from there it went upwards real fast, and she had a great production team for oprah Winfrey show behind her, signing some major stars to be on the show too (for good solid ratings so many years)

[Nicky91]

Kylie 23rd on the list of america's richest self made woman 2019

meanwhile she had just launched ''Kylie Skin'' a new brand for skin products, like creams

so yeah she achieved that 1 billion, but she wants more a true business person, staying ambitious even if you already achieved some success


and what i love about kylie's products, no animal testing, and also she has vegan and non-vegan based products, so she appeals to everyone within her target audience basically

also great how she is the CEO, but also chief financial officer, and chief creative officer of her growing business empire, so she has the last say about any new products


''self made'' i know she isn't rags to riches we get it, but she is self made because her investment money for her business wasn't inherited but earned herself through modelling work


so yeah i love her being so successful and her achieving something herself (maybe she had family name with her ok) but comparing her and a for example Rob who does nothing all day, at least she has tried it herself and has success with her ideas

[Livia]

Any kid from a family of millionaires can start a successful business? Who knew...

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

Any kid from a family of millionaires can start a successful business? Who knew...

i cannot deny this Livia, but i'm just glad Kylie doesn't live on her families money and sit on her arse and do nothing all day

but yeah this isn't like Oprah Winfrey's story

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i cannot deny this Livia, but i'm just glad Kylie doesn't live on her families money and sit on her arse and do nothing all day

but yeah this isn't like Oprah Winfrey's story

I imagine sitting on her arse is exactly what she does all day. Do you think she runs the business? She has people who actually know what they're doing and she pays them. Hardly businesswoman of the year.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

I imagine sitting on her arse is exactly what she does all day. Do you think she runs the business? She has people who actually know what they're doing and she pays them. Hardly businesswoman of the year.

i explained it anyway what she does

she is ''chief executive officer'' ''chief financial officer'' ''chief creative officer'' of her company which she fully 100% is the owner and founder of

and she only has 12 employees

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i explained it anyway what she does

she is ''chief executive officer'' ''chief financial officer'' ''chief creative officer'' of her company which she fully 100% is the owner and founder of

and she only has 12 employees

I'm guessing those twelve employees are the ones who do the creating and the finance and Kylie pops in once a month to see how things are going.

Sorry Nicky, I know you're a fan, but show me a woman who's built a business up from nothing with just talent and ambition. Not someone who's spent some money buying herself a CEO position.