[Natalie.]

The really messed up killing Carl, surely they must regret it now
I think I read Andrew left a bit earlier than planned because of this

[Babayaro.]

Yeah, still to this day killing off Carl is the worst decision they have made.

[Natalie.]

I agree, they didn't even do it a way so he could possibly come back one day

[Amy Jade]

The show started going down hill when they started making Beth a big focus and then killed her off, I think they underestimated how much a younger audience liked her.

Then Negan showed up and the show felt more like a cartoon.

[Babayaro.]

And now it's good again

[Amy Jade]

Its passable but waaaaay past it's best.

[Moniqua]

they messed up killing Jacqui lbr x

[Strictly Jake]

Well I actually loved that episode. Yeah it was cheesy and yeah unrealistic but it has good scare moments and I have missed that on the show. This series as a whole, the first section of the series included has been a great improvement.

Yeah Alpha and Beta could have both easily have been killed but we have a lot more storywise to go with the whisperers. Just as long as it doesnt drag as much as the I am Negan days did!

Nicky you mentioned a backstory for Beta, didnt we have that in the backstory for Alpha. He didnt want to kill his son even though he was a zombie and the face he is wearing now is his sons

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Well I actually loved that episode. Yeah it was cheesy and yeah unrealistic but it has good scare moments and I have missed that on the show. This series as a whole, the first section of the series included has been a great improvement.

Yeah Alpha and Beta could have both easily have been killed but we have a lot more storywise to go with the whisperers. Just as long as it doesnt drag as much as the I am Negan days did!

Nicky you mentioned a backstory for Beta, didnt we have that in the backstory for Alpha. He didnt want to kill his son even though he was a zombie and the face he is wearing now is his sons

yes all i can say is

Spoiler:

huge battle upcoming next

not too heavy spoilers but that is all what i can say

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Well I actually loved that episode. Yeah it was cheesy and yeah unrealistic but it has good scare moments and I have missed that on the show. This series as a whole, the first section of the series included has been a great improvement.

Yeah Alpha and Beta could have both easily have been killed but we have a lot more storywise to go with the whisperers. Just as long as it doesnt drag as much as the I am Negan days did!

Nicky you mentioned a backstory for Beta, didnt we have that in the backstory for Alpha. He didnt want to kill his son even though he was a zombie and the face he is wearing now is his sons

Was it his son? I thought it was just his BFF. She met him in a rehab facility, it's implied that he was famous pre-apocalypse but ended up in rehab/psych facility (so he was already a bit unhinged BEFORE all the zombies, basically) and he developed a close relationship with a staff member, who he then "kept alive" in walker form until eventually he had to kill it (and started wearing the face as a mask).

Main difference from the comics is that he's a famous NBA basketball player in the comics, rather than a musician. I assume they changed it because TV Beta isn't really built like a basketball player.

[Cal.]

Sooo much went on in that ep ive only just started watching again. Rosita Queen!

[Nicky91]

thoroughly enjoyed that episode last night

Negan is clearly playing Alpha, first testing her if she wants to listen to his ideas of ''people are resources'' but she has clearly shown she only wants to destroy and kill

also he was pretty much hesitant at first to shoot that Arrow, but you don't have much of a choice at that point otherwise you'll end up killed yourself on the spot


liked Lydia/Carol conversation, Cassady is one talented actress i must say


next episode we get

Spoiler:

another DJ flashback

and also

Spoiler:

more of Negan's plan, which we have heard in a teaser what he says to Aaron when Aaron screams at him, ''relax i have a plan'' soo i think/also hope Negan kills alpha next episode

[user104658]

I think it was strongly hinted in the preview that Negan will kill Alpha soon; either the next episode, or he'll at least isolate her in the next episode to kill her soon after.

[user104658]

I also agree that the actress who plays Lydia is one of the better young actors they've had on the show. Henry was awful and let's face it... poor Coral was never really great either.

[Babayaro.]

I really hate that the comics exist lol (that sounds stupid bc without them we wouldn't have the series) because pretty much all of the big deaths don't come as a shock.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

I really hate that the comics exist lol (that sounds stupid bc without them we wouldn't have the series) because pretty much all of the big deaths don't come as a shock.

To be fair, they've thrown enough curveballs now for nothing to be sure. Andrea was of course an early one (as far as I know she's STILL kickin' in the comics; she became Rick's new partner rather than Michonne). And there's been Carl, Rick (disappearing, he's not actually dead of course), Jesus... all still alive and well. And people who HAVE died in comics not being dead (yet), e.g. Ezekiel died in the comics at the point where the tiger died on the show, and Rosita was one of the "heads on a stick" at the border... I guess replaced by Enid who wasn't in the comics at all.

You can really only be 50/50 that Negan actually WILL kill Alpha. I think he probably will, because it's the only real way Negan can return to Alexandria without being locked straight back up or killed, but there's also the chance they'll flip it so that it's Beta he kills with Alpha continuing to lead the Whisperers (in comics, Alpha dies and Beta takes over to avenge her death).

[Babayaro.]

Also, that episode was better than the first two. It had a very 'A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms' feel to it.

Ezekiel is as good as dead and I imagine he will be the biggest casualty from the fight. Hopefully they throw in a few surprises too.

[Babayaro.]

Judith gets eaten by a walker

[Babayaro.]

In all seriousness though, I hope Daryl dies. He's been really good this season but I think his story arc has kind of come full circle now. Him going out in a blaze of glory would be way more impactful than Ezekiel, which is likely to happen.

Never in a million years gonna happen though. He is invincible.

[Nicky91]

i can see Ezekiel dying in this battle, and yes cancer is never really a good omen in shows like this

can see them giving him a heroic death, him saving Carol or the children or something like that

[user104658]

I thought the point about cancer was an interesting one to cover though. He pointed out that the kind of cancer he has was considered "not that serious" in the pre-walker world... very high (95%+) survival rate with a surgery and a bit of light chemo. But post apocalypse without a fully functional operating theatre, specialists and chemo drugs... a death sentence.

Reminded me of the part in "The Stand" where they have to try to give some poor guy an appendectomy when they don't even have a doctor available and he (obviously) dies. 99.9% of people with appendicitis in "the normal world" have it whipped out and are fine a week later but without a surgeon... a burst appendix = death.

Of course they do have their unrealistic parts though, like Daryl hobbling into battle when he had a deep tissue wound a few days earlier and would realistically need to be in bed, pumped full of antibiotics, or he would end up septic in no time.

[Nicky91]

and the episode after this battle, is the one which is

Spoiler:

Michonne's last episode

[Strictly Jake]

Just watched it last night. One of the best episodes for a long time. It was scary and emotional too. I cried twice!! Carol and lydia talking and carol and daryl talking, oh wait no I cried 3 times, when judith and daryl were talking <3

[Babayaro.]

I've always wondered how they will eventually kill off Negan...


Because if you're being realistic (it's a show about zombies I know), Maggie will not live peacefully with him about, no matter how much he has changed (icr how she felt towards him when she left).

I think having Maggie kill Negan in a secluded area with just those two, will be the best way for him to go. Negan knows he is going to die and accepts his fate. Maggie pulls the trigger and that's it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

I think having Maggie kill Negan in a secluded area with just those two, will be the best way for him to go. Negan knows he is going to die and accepts his fate. Maggie pulls the trigger and that's it.

It's very possible I think. He'll have truly changed and will have helped them in some great way, she will even acknowledge that he's changed, and that if it wasn't Glenn it would be different, but it was Glenn and will kill him anyway. He will in a resigned way accept that she's going to and tell her that he "gets why" before she does it. And then she'll be stoically conflicted afterward.