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Old 22-02-2021, 07:40 PM #1
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Chris Whitty is adamant that schools are very safe places for CHILDREN but didn’t mention how safe the one million education STAFF are .... other than saying we are relatively safe COMPARED to professions working on the front line like doctors and nurses !!

That is not at all reassuring !


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Chris Whitty is adamant that schools are very safe places for CHILDREN but didn’t mention how safe the one million education STAFF are .... other than saying we are relatively safe COMPARED to professions working on the front line like doctors and nurses !!

That is not at all reassuring !

At least older Kids will have to have a Mask on.
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At least older Kids will have to have a Mask on.


Only in the corridors I presume.. as it’s been for about 6 months ...


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Its in the classrooms too this time Zizu


Interesting.. where did you hear that please ?


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Chris Whitty is adamant that schools are very safe places for CHILDREN but didn’t mention how safe the one million education STAFF are .... other than saying we are relatively safe COMPARED to professions working on the front line like doctors and nurses !!

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No it's not.
When he could say you were as very safe too rather than relatively safe, then open up.

Anyway the prediction and warning now is deaths will rise.
Sadly that seems a price worth paying to them to open up and lose yet more lives then.
Sorry but that disgusts me.
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No it's not.

When he could say you were as very safe too rather than relatively safe, then open up.



Anyway the prediction and warning now is deaths will rise.

Sadly that seems a price worth paying to them to open up and lose yet more lives then.

Sorry but that disgusts me.


I wasn’t impressed with Sir Patrick either.. pointing out that schools will be back for three weeks and then it’s the Easter break . ... so at that time they can reassess the situation and see if it’s safe to lift more restrictions or NOT !!!!

That’s sounds like we ( the staff in education) are being used as guinea pigs .. once again


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I wasn’t impressed with Sir Patrick either.. pointing out that schools will be back for three weeks and then it’s the Easter break . ... so at that time they can reassess the situation and see if it’s safe to lift more restrictions or NOT !!!!

That’s sounds like we ( the staff in education) are being used as guinea pigs .. once again


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That thinking would have been more acceptable, just, had they done as you said, only had some schools back not all.

I agree, it does sound a guinea pig scenario, and that's dangerous and should'nt be acceptable.
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Boris said it.....its in all the news reports....let me.find you a link
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Thank you ...

It does say pupils will be ‘advised’ to wear masks though . ..

Oh well ... fingers crossed then ..




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The pub/restaurant beer garden thing, is basically saying pubs/restaurants are closed until they can serve indoors to me. Even if we got a heat wave, most places, if they even have a beer garden, have like 2 tables or something. It will not be worth it, for the pubs to open to serve 2 tables of people. I mean, its nice to have some kind of plan, but that bits not been thouight through too much I think!

Schools all back at the same time sounds a bit disastrous, BUT...a hell of a lot of the high risk people have been vaccinated now. I know the second dose makes it a bit more effective, but the trials said smething along the lines of the second dose boosts it by 5% or something? So its not THAT much different really. Aslong as those who would get it badly are a bit safer, I honestly cannot see the problem even if we do get 'another wave'. Meaning of course, aslong as its not another dodgy mutation that can evade antibodies or something that causes the next wave. If its a strain that the vaccine is effective against (and it seems that most are) then...its just like a wave of flu/cold sweeping the country...assuming the vaccines do work as they say. If the vaccines do NOT protect that well against serious infection, then its a whole other story.

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the data is showing very high rates of protection from hospitalisation after 1 dose. I think the government have been very sensible in the loosening of restrictions. They were also right to get as many as possible the first jab as proven in the data.
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the data is showing very high rates of protection from hospitalisation after 1 dose. I think the government have been very sensible in the loosening of restrictions. They were also right to get as many as possible the first jab as proven in the data.
Yeah it does look like they made the right call there like

As I say, this 'another wave' stuff...is not as disastrous as some seem to think it is, assuming that the vaccines are as sucessful as it looks like they are. Because if people stay away from hospitals and people are not dying, its basically just another cold type thing.

I think it said on the news its something like 95% of hospitalisations are being avoided because of the vaccine..which is bloody amazing really.
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As I say, this 'another wave' stuff...is not as disastrous as some seem to think it is, assuming that the vaccines are as sucessful as it looks like they are. Because if people stay away from hospitals and people are not dying, its basically just another cold type thing.

I think it said on the news its something like 95% of hospitalisations are being avoided because of the vaccine..which is bloody amazing really.
I made your "if" bigger a 3rd wave, if one comes, is IMO likely to be in late October again and (obviously) we have no data about the extent that vaccines will reduce hospitalisation/death at the 6 month+ mark... only in the short term (as people have only been vaccinated en masse for a couple of months).

It does look hopeful though and I agree, the numbers to watch beyond next Autumn, post-vaccine, will be hospitalisations and deaths with total infections becoming a less important statistic. That's not to say an unimportant statistic of course... if the vaccines only prevent severe illness but do little to limit general circulation, the chance of mutation remains high and vaccine tweaks/need for re-vaccination will be needed to stop a repeat. Severe illness being way down in a huge win, but reduced overall infection rates will always be important looking further ahead. Imagine if things look fine until October 2022 and then they're like "Wups everyone back home, we need new vaccinations" .
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They are plenty people who go out to work every day unvaccinated, wait your turn, a 30 year old teacher does not take priority over a 55 year old supermarket worker
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Guess it’s a quandary ..

Second school teaching staff are crammed into a smallish classroom along with up to 33 teenagers and maybe two other adults.. . for around 5 hours per day

That’s scary given teenagers are mixing freely out of school .... masks are rarely worn ..


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Second school teaching staff are crammed into a smallish classroom along with up to 33 teenagers and maybe two other adults.. . for around 5 hours per day

That’s scary given teenagers are mixing freely out of school .... masks are rarely worn ..


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there will be a third wave, not an ''if''

because of relaxing the measures too soon again
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