[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

Seems like ‘recollections may vary’ is no longer the way forward: senior courtiers have revealed:



Harry’s meeting with the Queen lasted just over 13 minutes (not 40).

Meghan didn’t attend the meeting.

Certain 'business' was discussed (speculation at the moment that it was the Counsellor of State issue.)

Neil Sean/Richard Kay



I guess Harry's version sounds good for the American audience to boost the ‘great connection’ to the Queen for their brand.



……and Harry’s version of a great community in Montecito which welcomed them with open arms is baffling to the residents as they have never seen them or speak to them. Harry is seen occasionally on his bike or walking on the beach but no interactions. (Times Article).

Evidence?

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by jet

Seems like ‘recollections may vary’ is no longer the way forward: senior courtiers have revealed:

Harry’s meeting with the Queen lasted just over 13 minutes (not 40).
Meghan didn’t attend the meeting.
Certain 'business' was discussed (speculation at the moment that it was the Counsellor of State issue.)
Neil Sean/Richard Kay

I guess Harry's version sounds good for the American audience to boost the ‘great connection’ to the Queen for their brand.

……and Harry’s version of a great community in Montecito which welcomed them with open arms is baffling to the residents as they have never seen them or speak to them. Harry is seen occasionally on his bike or walking on the beach but no interactions. (Times Article).

Living in denial. Harry and Meghan will continue to put on a front...they will continue to feed the press what they want to be reported in the knowledge that the Royals will not respond....unlike the Residents of Montecito
Its really sad when you have to pretend to be something you are not.

[jet]

‘William at 40’, a new book by Robert Jobson. Sheds light on the family pressures that shaped the future King.
This extract is an interesting read about William and Harry’s childhoods - and their naughy antics….

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-William.html

'Papa doesn't embarrass me... Mama does': Prince William was the crutch for a troubled mother while his brother revelled in freedom of being the 'spare'. Now a new book by ROBERT JOBSON sheds light on the family pressures that shaped our future king

The unhappy Diana treated the young William as if he was an adult, and she the child…..

[For William, school was not only fun but a respite from his mother’s increasing tendency to lean on him as an emotional crutch. Later, even Diana privately admitted she went too far in burdening him with her problems.
She had taken to calling William ‘the man in my life’, and he did his best to be supportive — once telling her that he wanted to be a policeman so he could protect her. But he was only ten when his parents officially separated in 1992.

After their divorce was finalised, and William learned that his mother would be stripped of her royal title, he threw his arms around her and exclaimed: ‘Don’t worry, Mummy. I’ll give it back to you one day, when I’m king.’
Even so, he sometimes felt uncomfortable at being appointed her champion. After he went to Eton, she would often ring him there, sometimes crying hysterically down the line….]

[arista]

"Meghan didn’t attend the meeting."


Typical of her

[Jordan.]

wow so it's okay for william to attack ar di who isn't here to defend herself but harry can't say owt???

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

wow so it's okay for william to attack ar di who isn't here to defend herself but harry can't say owt???

He is No longer an Official Royal
so his view is twisted with Meghans sad views

[bots]

everyone knew diana had a screw loose

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

everyone knew diana had a screw loose

She got involved with a man almost twice her age when she was a 16 year old child, and he ended up marrying her and having two children with her all the while with both of them knowing full well that he was in love with someone else.

So yeah she was probably a little troubled by the end.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

She got involved with a man almost twice her age when she was a 16 year old child, and he ended up marrying her and having two children with her all the while with both of them knowing full well that he was in love with someone else.

So yeah she was probably a little troubled by the end.

And yet she is the one William is embarrassed by, sickening.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

She got involved with a man almost twice her age when she was a 16 year old child, and he ended up marrying her and having two children with her all the while with both of them knowing full well that he was in love with someone else.

So yeah she was probably a little troubled by the end.

Knock on her parents door.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

wow so it's okay for william to attack ar di who isn't here to defend herself but harry can't say owt???

He was a child at the time.
William, as a grown man doesn't say 'owt', while Harry, who knows the Americans adored his mother, makes sure he mentions her ad nauseum to benefit himself.

[Parmy]

All this comes down to harry and William's race, when harry beat him in front of the cameras..and mocked him whilst doing so...its simply the stiffness of the british.

Sad really, everyone could have still been happy.

[Parmy]

https://youtu.be/Jx24ay589mQ

The joint tour, the last time you saw them United.


What happened from that to now...

That's my question.

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by parmnion

https://youtu.be/Jx24ay589mQ

The joint tour, the last time you saw them United.


What happened from that to now...

That's my question.

Jealousy… I think growing up Harry loved being ‘the spare’….when they reached adulthood he suddenly realised being ‘the spare’ made him feel inferior. His want of taking control of his own life but keeping his titles and status in another country gave him a sense of superiority that he could never have over William had he stayed here.
However….his manipulation of the truth that he knows will go unchallenged by family members is starting to reveal itself from insiders who can and will speak on their behalf.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Jealousy… I think growing up Harry loved being ‘the spare’….when they reached adulthood he suddenly realised being ‘the spare’ made him feel inferior. His want of taking control of his own life but keeping his titles and status in another country gave him a sense of superiority that he could never have over William had he stayed here.

However….his manipulation of the truth that he knows will go unchallenged by family members is starting to reveal itself from insiders who can and will speak on their behalf.

Harry's position of importance within the Royal Family dropped as soon as William had kids - as was the case with Charles' siblings when William was born. Such is a hereditary system of succession. I don't think it's necessarily about feeling inferior, but it's natural to want to go a different way when you feel your relevance dropping where you are... surely?

[bots]

i think harry has a huge amount of baggage that has built up over the years and being second fiddle to william will be pretty low down the list. He has made a lot of bad choices/decisions over the years and thats entirely down to him. Some people always believe they are hard done by and harry is simply an example of that. He will never change

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think harry has a huge amount of baggage that has built up over the years and being second fiddle to william will be pretty low down the list. He has made a lot of bad choices/decisions over the years and thats entirely down to him. Some people always believe they are hard done by and harry is simply an example of that. He will never change

I don't know that it's even about second fiddle as much as it is the "great importance" that's placed on the other sibling... I think that affects any sibling relationship really. My bed friend had a "golden child" brother (test scores off the chart, played piano at a high grade by 12, spoke fluent Japanese by 15 etc.) and his parents didn't exactly hide how great they thought the brother was. It's not like they were bad to him or even that they didn't have a loving relationship - it was just abundantly clear that the brother was seen as "special" and it was clear that affected him.

Thats going to be the case for any royal sibling I think, especially when there are just two of them... Margaret, for example. Its probably lessened when there are other siblings in the mix as then it's a different thing, not "one and one".

Im not saying its the crux of all the issues but having a sibling with a "destiny" is going to affect anyone in some way.

[arista]

[SkyText : An extra annual holiday to acknowledge
the Queen's incredible service to
her country is posed for approval,]

[arista]

[bots]

a bank holiday around the autumn half term would be a good idea

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

a bank holiday around the autumn half term would be a good idea

No,
we have enough of them.

[bots]

we have 3 less bank holidays a year than most other civilised countries (america is the exception)

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we have 3 less bank holidays a year than most other civilised countries (america is the exception)

america is quite a big exception given its the most civilised country. Catch up to us huns.

[bots]

A lemon and Swiss roll amaretti trifle is to be the official pudding for the Queen's Platinum Jubilee after winning a competition to find a new dessert.

Jemma Melvin created the dessert, inspired by the lemon posset served at the Queen's wedding to Prince Philip.

The trifle is made with layers of lemon curd swiss roll, custard, jelly, a mandarin coulis and amaretti biscuits.

It will join the ranks of royal-inspired dishes, such as coronation chicken and Victoria sponge.

Some 5,000 people, aged eight to 108, entered the nationwide competition to craft a new pudding to commemorate the Queen's 70-year reign, with entries whittled down to five finalists who subsequently competed before a panel of expert judges in a show on BBC One.

Jemma, a copywriter from Southport, Merseyside, beat fellow amateur bakers Kathryn MacLennan, Sam Smith, Shabnam Russo and Susan Gardner in a special BBC programme called The Jubilee Pudding: 70 years in the Baking, with the Duchess of Cornwall announcing the winner.

The competition was run by royal grocer Fortnum and Mason, in partnership with the Big Jubilee Lunch Charity, to create a pudding that had a memorable story behind it, tasted delicious, and was fit for the 96-year-old Queen.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

A lemon and Swiss roll amaretti trifle is to be the official pudding for the Queen's Platinum Jubilee after winning a competition to find a new dessert.

Jemma Melvin created the dessert, inspired by the lemon posset served at the Queen's wedding to Prince Philip.

The trifle is made with layers of lemon curd swiss roll, custard, jelly, a mandarin coulis and amaretti biscuits.

It will join the ranks of royal-inspired dishes, such as coronation chicken and Victoria sponge.

Some 5,000 people, aged eight to 108, entered the nationwide competition to craft a new pudding to commemorate the Queen's 70-year reign, with entries whittled down to five finalists who subsequently competed before a panel of expert judges in a show on BBC One.

Jemma, a copywriter from Southport, Merseyside, beat fellow amateur bakers Kathryn MacLennan, Sam Smith, Shabnam Russo and Susan Gardner in a special BBC programme called The Jubilee Pudding: 70 years in the Baking, with the Duchess of Cornwall announcing the winner.

The competition was run by royal grocer Fortnum and Mason, in partnership with the Big Jubilee Lunch Charity, to create a pudding that had a memorable story behind it, tasted delicious, and was fit for the 96-year-old Queen.

A posh jaffa cake.