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Old 06-06-2021, 07:51 PM #1
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Thumbs up Weak Gareth Southgate turns England fans against him.

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Good for Gareth. A manager should support the team if it’s what they want.
More people clapped last week to drown out the morons that decided to boo.
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Good for Gareth. A manager should support the team if it’s what they want.
More people clapped last week to drown out the morons that decided to boo.
I totally agree smudgie..
There's sadly still a some racism around sport it seems.
On football terraces particularly.
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i abhor racism in football, but i dont like the connection that the gesture has to BLM, so i would prefer not to see it. Sport should never be political and BLM is political. Racism is not political however, they need to come up with some other method of supporting kick it out rather than BLM
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i abhor racism in football, but i dont like the connection that the gesture has to BLM, so i would prefer not to see it. Sport should never be political and BLM is political. Racism is not political however, they need to come up with some other method of supporting kick it out rather than BLM

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i abhor racism in football, but i dont like the connection that the gesture has to BLM, so i would prefer not to see it. Sport should never be political and BLM is political. Racism is not political however, they need to come up with some other method of supporting kick it out rather than BLM

I totally agree.
Im sure the FA were against wearing poppies and the Manchester City manager was reprimanded for wearing a political badge.
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…I love how Marcus Rashford simplifies these things like he did with the school meals for children…they’re only complicated and political when they’re made complicated and political…it’s an anti racism/discrimination gesture simply and there is no politics involved in that unless people choose to see that…
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…I love how Marcus Rashford simplifies these things like he did with the school meals for children…they’re only complicated and political when they’re made complicated and political…it’s an anti racism/discrimination gesture simply and there is no politics involved in that unless people choose to see that…
We have had the Kick it out campaign for years and the players wear it on their shirts.

and its not about racism in football (of which there is precious little in the UK)

this has been used to justify the erroneous decision to "take the knee" in retrospect

I go to a lot of football games at what could be seen as a right-wing club and i never hear or witness racism and our captain and player of the year is black

i am quite sure that is replicated at every ground in the UK
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It's a shame that BLM seems to have the monopoly in standing against racism, and there's not a gesture or something which doesn't have their stink on it. Surely there's a way they can silently protest racism without associating with rioters and politics?

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It's a shame that BLM seems to have the monopoly in standing against racism, and there's not a gesture or something which doesn't have their stink on it. Surely there's a way they can silently protest racism without associating with rioters and politics?



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Yes not a MP.


Nicky has bad MP's in his nation.
which bad MP's



Baudet is no longer in our parliament thankfully


and well Wilders, although he is hardcore far-right pvv, he sometimes does say some good things, during the corona regulation debates for example
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Yes Good Points from Nigel

BLM are a Marxist crazy group
(check their website)

This is going on World News
all around the world.

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Imagine Marcus Rashford, a man who has ensured some of the poorest families in the country can feed their kids during this pandemic captains his country for the first time ever. He leads his players out with great pride to take a knee, only to be booed by absolute idiots in the crowd just before they begin an international tournament.

I honestly hate English football fans sometimes.
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Imagine Marcus Rashford, a man who has ensured some of the poorest families in the country can feed their kids during this pandemic captains his country for the first time ever. He leads his players out with great pride to take a knee, only to be booed by absolute idiots in the crowd just before they begin an international tournament.

I honestly hate English football fans sometimes.
Kneeling on the ground achieves nothing, it is nothing more than performative allyship. The only thing that happens is the association with a questionable group pisses people off.

The only people who weren't behind Rashford during the school meals thing were the kind of idiots who say stuff like "can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em".
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Kneeling on the ground achieves nothing, it is nothing more than performative allyship. The only thing that happens is the association with a questionable group pisses people off.

The only people who weren't behind Rashford during the school meals thing were the kind of idiots who say stuff like "can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em".
If the players want to peacefully make a point then who the hell are we to tel them that “kneeling doesn’t achieve anything”. These same fans were having meltdowns over a damn super league and yet simply kneeling before a game starts isn’t a worthy protest or message.

If it pisses off people then it just shows how much more work there is to do.
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If the players want to peacefully make a point then who the hell are we to tel them that “kneeling doesn’t achieve anything”. These same fans were having meltdowns over a damn super league and yet simply kneeling before a game starts isn’t a worthy protest or message.

If it pisses off people then it just shows how much more work there is to do.
a lot of people don't agree with the politics of BLM and kneeling is directly linked to BLM. Why should they accept football being political. We already had kick it out which was specific to the cause and non political
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a lot of people don't agree with the politics of BLM and kneeling is directly linked to BLM. Why should they accept football being political. We already had kick it out which was specific to the cause and non political
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there is little "racism " in UK football

there is in American based social media

and in America

blm is a despicable "organisation" that has Nothing to do with the UK

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Spare me with that bull.


I’m sure match going football fans have always cared about the ins and outs of Marxism and Communism or whatever else the pitiful excuse was from that section.


Also, taking a knee is inspired more by Colin Kaepernick and MLK Jr than anything BLM. It just became more of a thing in the U.K after the BLM protests here. That would involve too much research though, let’s just boo them before they set off for a tournment. Hell, we didn’t even boo John Terry who called someone a black bastard on a football pitch.
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Imagine Marcus Rashford, a man who has ensured some of the poorest families in the country can feed their kids during this pandemic captains his country for the first time ever. He leads his players out with great pride to take a knee, only to be booed by absolute idiots in the crowd just before they begin an international tournament.

I honestly hate English football fans sometimes.
Hes ensured we can feed the poor families kids, not the poor families feeding their own kids
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