[jet]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You're the one claiming she put 'caucasion' , you seem confused.

Nothing confusing about it. She put Caucasion, I've seen screenshots; and as she got a mixed race part she must also have put mixed race on that, and maybe other, applications. Someone doesn't have to only do one thing or the other at all times.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think some people find it hard to grasp that people are or should be cast on their merit & acting ability, rather than just how they look or what ethnicity they are.

Don't get me wrong I know it depends on the role ,but the person needs to have the skills aswell .

I don't doubt the way she looks was probably the most important aspect of her securing that role. It's just the weird obsession of pretending everything that's ever happened in her life, is confirmation of whatever the deep thinkers project on to her and want to believe, I don't get.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by jet

Nothing confusing about it. She put Caucasion, I've seen screenshots; and as she got a mixed race part she must also have put mixed race on that, and maybe other, applications. Someone doesn't have to only do one thing or the other at all times.

None of us know the obstacles she may have come across, both Hollywood & the music industry can be brutal. & They will pressure you to do things to get 'the role ' .

It's especially tough on women as I keep saying , especially women of colour.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't doubt the way she looks was probably the most important aspect of her securing that role. It's just the weird obsession of pretending everything that's ever happened in her life, is confirmation of whatever the deep thinkers project on to her and want to believe, I don't get.

Even if her looks helped her / gave her leverage. She still will have had to go through the endless audition process to impress. Some producers & directors have zero filter , she probably got told she had to look a certain way or to change this & that .

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You can keep banging on about Johnny & Amber all you like,but the comparison will never match this .

Come back to me when Meghan & Harry have audio recordings of abuse,and evidence of dangerous toxicity with eachother. I'm talking more than the whole hand holding / pulling away clip .

Come back to me when people are discussing those things about meghan and harry, because as yet nobody is.

Peolle are discussing her personality that she is giving out for us to watch. Thats what people are discussing.

[jet]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Do you have any idea how difficult it is for black people especially black women, in the industry. Meghan being mixed race gave her an advantage & even then it's still tough in the industry. And you're constantly stereotyped & judged on your background & race .

If you don't see the racism Meghan has experienced in the media ,then you must be turning a blind eye.
She's from LA ,yet a dumb headline was written about her as "straight out of Compton". If you can't see the racist stereotyping there then wow .

Meghan seems very proud of her black roots , she's probably had people make ignorant remarks about her skin tone - race all her life. People have different ways of dealing & coping with that .

It's not her fault of people think she can pass for Italian, some light skinned mix race people can pass for white ..but it still doesn't change who they are or where they're from.

What's interesting is when idiots make racist comments in front of them, not realising they're actually black. People show their true colours when they think they're with their own 'kind' .

What right does anyone have to tell Meghan how black she is , she is still black. Her hair & nose have zero to do with it .

Ever think she might have been pressured to change her appearance?. Even Alexandra Burke said the music industry would bully her into changing her hair & skin tone , to be more 'appealing' . It's utterly disgusting really.

Of course there was some racism in certain sections of the press, nobody is denying that. It’s not a perfect world. There is far worse racism in certain parts of the USA than there will ever be in the UK, but Meghan, according to her family and the friends she grew up with, never had a problem with racism growing up in California. She went to exclusive schools which were absolutely racially diverse with well off pupils from all over the world. Meghan would not have stood out one bit, far from it. Her neighbourhood was racially diverse. Her friends were racially diverse. Do you know anything about her life, from her own mouth and from those who she grew up with?

The point I’m making is that Meghan and the likes of her cheerleaders Shola and Omid Scobie and her admirers are using her skin colour now to divert from valid criticism of someone whose actions, presentation and motives are very polarising and questionable to say the least. She never presented herself as a ‘proud black woman’ until she could use it to her advantage. That, to me, is disgusting and an example of racism in itself.

Should a very unlikeable, bullying, lying black woman be allowed a pass that a very unlikeable, bullying, lying white woman wouldn’t get to save those who dislike her from being labelled as racist? Absolutely not, though many use that as their trump card, just like Meghan herself.

[jet]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Even if her looks helped her / gave her leverage. She still will have had to go through the endless audition process to impress. Some producers & directors have zero filter , she probably got told she had to look a certain way or to change this & that .

She probably got told nothing of the sort. If she had, we'd have heard about it all loud and clear because being the poor victim and how hard her life has been - (it wasn't, she was a pampered prima donna) is her bread and butter.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by jet

Of course there was some racism in certain sections of the press, nobody is denying that. It’s not a perfect world. There is far worse racism in certain parts of the USA than there will ever be in the UK, but Meghan, according to her family and the friends she grew up with, never had a problem with racism growing up in California. She went to exclusive schools which were absolutely racially diverse with well off pupils from all over the world. Meghan would not have stood out one bit, far from it. Her neighbourhood was racially diverse. Her friends were racially diverse. Do you know anything about her life, from her own mouth and from those who she grew up with?

The point I’m making is that Meghan and the likes of her cheerleaders Shola and Omid Scobie and her admirers are using her skin colour now to divert from valid criticism of someone whose actions, presentation and motives are very polarising and questionable to say the least. She never presented herself as a ‘proud black woman’ until she could use it to her advantage. That, to me, is disgusting and an example of racism in itself.

Should a very unlikeable, bullying, lying black woman be allowed a pass that a very unlikeable, bullying, lying white woman wouldn’t get to save those who dislike her from being labelled as racist? Absolutely not, though many use that as their trump card, just like Meghan herself.

spot on Jet

nail on head

[Swan]

See i don't get why she can't be criticised? She a public figure, just like the rest of them. You put yourself out there you are automatically open to criticism, and praise.

I absolutely agree without argument that our sensationalist press have been petty and over the top with some of their trash headlines and nit picking. People come in with this Meghan haters nonsense, at the same time they're coming in and defending her like she's the second coming or something. Her defence is even more obsessive than her criticism for the most part at this point.

Why can people just simply not like her without being branded racist either, it's so strange. If i had a top 10 list of celebs who annoy me i can almost be certain they'd all be white. Why does not liking a mixed race celebrity make you a racist?!

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by jet

Nothing confusing about it. She put Caucasion, I've seen screenshots; and as she got a mixed race part she must also have put mixed race on that, and maybe other, applications. Someone doesn't have to only do one thing or the other at all times.

The first thing a casting agent would have seen would be her headshot. If they didn't like her picture, they wouldn't have read on. It wouldn't matter how she classed herself.

Really, bickering over something as irrelevant as her akon colour is stupid.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Swan

See i don't get why she can't be criticised? She a public figure, just like the rest of them. You put yourself out there you are automatically open to criticism, and praise.

I absolutely agree without argument that our sensationalist press have been petty and over the top with some of their trash headlines and nit picking. People come in with this Meghan haters nonsense, at the same time they're coming in and defending her like she's the second coming or something. Her defence is even more obsessive than her criticism for the most part at this point.

Why can people just simply not like her without being branded racist either, it's so strange. If i had a top 10 list of celebs who annoy me i can almost be certain they'd all be white. Why does not liking a mixed race celebrity make you a racist?!

In all the markle threads and of course this one, the people who "support" her do 3 things

1. never address what she does or says
2. try and frame any criticism as "irrational hate"
3. play the race card

Regular as clockwork

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Swan

I wanna ask you a genuine question, im not trying to one up you, whatever you say i'll accept (i've made my anti royal views very clear on here anyway). But my question is - What do you actually like about her as a person? Like do you think she's a great Duchess and making a real difference?

I wont argue with you, we all have different opinions, but seriously, i just dont see what there is to like. Change my mind.

I don’t think I’ve ever said I like her personally, because I don’t really know enough about her to be a ‘fan’ and I don’t pretend to, unlike the people who hate her and make believe they know all aspects of her personality to try and justify just why they hate her so much.

I just see a woman who was and continues to be treated appallingly by the British media and the hordes of brainless morons who jump on the bandwagon, if you saw someone in real life you thought was being unfairly mistreated, would you say something about it or just ignore it or even join in because you think they deserved it for who they are?

I don’t see that she’s done anything wrong, or anything worthy of the unrelenting vitriol that is sent her way and I will call it out anytime I feel like it because to me, it’s wrong

[Jordan.]

Meghan Markle’s podcast Archetypes took down The Joe Rogan Experience as the top podcast on Spotify in the United States on Thursday, just two days after the Duchess of Sussex dropped the first episode of her highly-anticipated podcast.

KEY FACTS
Archetypes’ ascent ended Rogan’s reign at the top of the Spotify podcast charts, which he had held off and on for nearly three years—although his podcast has been topped before—even amid criticism over claims he was spreading misinformation on Covid-19 vaccines.

Archetypes, which Markle describes as an interview series to “dissect, explore and subvert the labels that try to hold women back,” also premiered above The Official Game of Thrones Podcast: House of the Dragon, Girls Next Level and Huberman Lab, which took the third, fourth and fifth spots in Spotify’s charts—the streaming service does not list the number of plays each podcast received.

Markle released the first episode of her podcast on Tuesday, featuring an interview with 23-time Grand Slam champion Serena Williams, who recently announced she will retire from pro tennis.

In addition to the U.S., Markle’s podcast also topped Spotify’s podcast charts in Australia, Canada, Ireland and the United Kingdom.

Spotify exec's must be very happy with this success, we can look forward to more projects with Meghan in the future

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Spotify exec's must be very happy with this success, we can look forward to more projects with Meghan in the future

disaster movies tend to get great audiences

as do car crashes

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

disaster movies tend to get great audiences

as do car crashes

That's nice. As long as Meghan stays being relevant and getting paid

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

That's nice. As long as Meghan stays being relevant and getting paid

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

it hurtz

i get it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

have you lost weight?

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

have you lost weight?

60 going on 16 yikes

[Jordan.]

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

Of course there was some racism in certain sections of the press, nobody is denying that. It’s not a perfect world. There is far worse racism in certain parts of the USA than there will ever be in the UK, but Meghan, according to her family and the friends she grew up with, never had a problem with racism growing up in California. She went to exclusive schools which were absolutely racially diverse with well off pupils from all over the world. Meghan would not have stood out one bit, far from it. Her neighbourhood was racially diverse. Her friends were racially diverse. Do you know anything about her life, from her own mouth and from those who she grew up with?

The point I’m making is that Meghan and the likes of her cheerleaders Shola and Omid Scobie and her admirers are using her skin colour now to divert from valid criticism of someone whose actions, presentation and motives are very polarising and questionable to say the least. She never presented herself as a ‘proud black woman’ until she could use it to her advantage. That, to me, is disgusting and an example of racism in itself.

Should a very unlikeable, bullying, lying black woman be allowed a pass that a very unlikeable, bullying, lying white woman wouldn’t get to save those who dislike her from being labelled as racist? Absolutely not, though many use that as their trump card, just like Meghan herself.

Before I address the bit I want to, I want to make clear that I'm not calling you racist.

So the myth that minorities or PoC get away with stuff that the honkys would never be allowed to, despite centuries of historical and contemporary evidence, is inherently racist. It just is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

its sweet that them thinks anyone believes its not people watching a slow motion trainwreck

please dont say you do too??




omg

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Jet alone is probably responsible for at least one million of those listens

[Crimson Dynamo]

weak

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its sweet that them thinks anyone believes its not people watching a slow motion trainwreck

please dont say you do too??




omg

Sure, it's probably mostly people listening to laugh at her, or crappy "journalists" looking for headlines they can endlessly drone on about ... But it's all clicks, which counts in her favour.

You've probably given her a few extra listeners by advertising her show on here. Stop giving her the spotlight she craves, I only ever hear about her on here