[Oliver_W]

I thought she'd have outlasted at least some of the other wet nonentities.

[Liam-]

They’re going to ignore the trouncing they got at the election and the renouncement of their extremities and choose the most extreme option available, Jenrick or Badenoch will win

[GiRTh]

I hope the tories go as extreme as possible just to show how far they are from the party of Thatcher and Major

[MTVN]

Looks like it'll be between Jenrick and Kemi

I don't mind either of them. Kemi might prove a bit confrontational though

[arista]

Next Tuesday
another is eliminated.

Robert Jenrick MP 28 votes
Kemi Badenoch MP 22 votes
James Cleverly MP 21 votes
Tom Tugendhat MP 17 votes
Mel Stride MP 16 votes



The remaining 4
will then go to the Conservative Conference
29th September – 2nd October 2024.
Conference location: International Convention
Centre 8 Centenary Square
Birmingham B1 2EA.

[Maru]

Are any of these people actual leaders or just "names"?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Maru

Are any of these people actual leaders or just "names"?

Sunak MP is still the leader

They are all trying to be the new Leader
The Conservatives had done a slow race
The Winner is announced in November 2024


Next Tuesday Mel Stride MP
is likely to get the least votes
so he may be gone.


All have been in the Cabinet
so are at the level to become the new leader

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Livia

Looked to me like it was you who had the hissy fit about a post I made to someone else.

I believe Reform attracts dubious types because they have failed to disassociate themselves adequately from Britain First nutters and the like, who are just plain old racists. I believe this will get better, all parties have struggled in the past to get decent candidates, Reform is no exception.

Other than a ban on non-essential immigration, and that doesn't include taking refugees through legal routes like the UN and the Red Cross, which we already do, there are several attractive policies for me from Reform:

Cutting tax for small businesses, taking the level at which they pay VAT up from £90k to £150k. Raising the stamp duty threshold. Creating a Royal Commission for social care. I don't know what social care is like where you live but where I live it's abysmal, especially elderly care. Scrapping Net Zero, we're installing wind turbines for green energy that are made in Chinese coal-fired foundries. Madness. Labour plans to charge VAT on private school fees which will mean lots of kids currently in private schools will suddenly land in already overcrowded and underachieving state schools. Reform want to give parents of kids in private school a tax break. And more money pledged to the NHS.

Just a snapshop. I hope this meets with your approval.

Did you get those policies from Wikipedia/BBC. Even the way you phrase them and the order you put them is the same

As for hissy fits. Bots gave you a perfect answer. IF you cant see whats wrong with Reform then no one can tell you and you compared him to another forum member. Looked alot like a hissy fit to me so I came along gave my pence now you're copying articles to act like you've even read the policies.

[GiRTh]

Ooops

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqll1edxgw4o

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Ooops

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqll1edxgw4o

If that's your evidence for a cut and paste job, it's pretty thin.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Livia

If that's your evidence for a cut and paste job, it's pretty thin.

OK if you say so but the same wording and in the same order

[arista]

Shadow health secretary
Victoria Atkins MP backs Robert Jenrick

[arista]

Mel Stride only got 16 votes
So he is now Removed

[arista]

Robert Jenrick MP 33 Votes
Kemi Badenoch MP 28 Votes

James Cleverly MP 21 Votes
Tom Tugendhat MP 21 Votes




These Four now go to the Conservative Conference

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Denmark publishes that information. Guess which group is responsible for the most crime. Go on... Guess. Denmark and the West... Or the "others".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

Denmark publishes that information. Guess which group is responsible for the most crime. Go on... Guess. Denmark and the West... Or the "others".

[joeysteele]

Only 12 votes in it.
It could be interesting to see where Mel Stride's votes go.

[bots]

the top 2 now will fight it out and Jenrick will win. Then in 12-18 months he will be replaced by someone else. You heard it here first

[Cherie]

Jenrick will be a terrible leader

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Jenrick will be a terrible leader

Yes. They are all terrible choices. I'd have preferred Priti.

[arista]

Mel and Priti
are no longer on this list
so just the first 4

[bots]

Cleverly could sneak in to the top 2. His name is so ironic because he is thick as ****

[arista]

[joeysteele]

It's not for me to say who the Cons should elect but I want the Cons stronger than they are.
Without moving to more hard-line positions.

In my view, and frankly NO political Party at this time has a good leader.
However I'd say of the 4 candidates left, then Kemi Badenoch is the perhaps safer choice.

I don't want to see the Cons further sinking as a force.
I'd like to see them stronger.
They need to stop fighting old battles which could have little to no relevance 3 to 5 years on from now.