[Nicky91]

Netherlands current vaccination numbers

First Dose: 1.688.490

Second Dose: 690.062


so if we can resume after wednesday that would be great and hope EMA doesn't **** up this time around and a better quality review

since we haven't vaccinated all elderly yet either

[bots]

the EU have exclusively targeted AZ for anything they can think of, it's so obviously politically motivated

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the EU have exclusively targeted AZ for anything they can think of, it's so obviously politically motivated

No

a coincidence, that quite a few countries in the EU reported (some fatal) cases of 'blood clots' i mean like Italy, Germany, Netherlands

and all of those were from AZ vaccine (but there is no evidence for thrombosis but more still very much uncertainties regarding this, EMA is at fault here, should've took more time in their review of this vaccine) they are due to say anything on wednesday now


France's slow vaccine rollout, like Cherie also says is more because they are already vaccine hesitant no matter if there of a problem with vaccine or not

[Cherry Christmas]

Clotting is also a rare symptom of covid, 30 strokes recorded in the first wave of covid in the UK so the incidence of getting it where it is actually attributable to covid and the very rare incidence which have not yet been linked to the vaccine I know which one I would rather have

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Clotting is also a rare symptom of covid, 30 strokes recorded in the first wave of covid in the UK so the incidence of getting it where it is actually attributable to covid and the very rare incidence which have not yet been linked to the vaccine I know which one I would rather have

Why aren’t they highlighting those blood clots from the first wave BEFORE any vaccines were even a available ?


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[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Why aren’t they highlighting those blood clots from the first wave BEFORE any vaccines were even a available ?


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How do you mean, blood clotting is well known as a symptom of covid? my friend who ended up in hospital got a clot in her lung among other issues

[Zizu]

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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

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https://www.channel4.com/news/uk-med...strazeneca-jab

Here’s the link to the actual video, there’s nothing new in it at all and I think this text snippet is quite misleading based on the content of the video?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

https://www.channel4.com/news/uk-med...strazeneca-jab

Here’s the link to the actual video, there’s nothing new in it at all and I think this text snippet is quite misleading based on the content of the video?

That’s Channel 4 News as well I think ?




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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That’s Channel 4 News as well I think ?




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It’s disappointing that they’d be so misleading in the text I think. It doesn’t really reflect what was actually said in the video and I think it’s just going to make even more people nervous about vaccination.

[Nicky91]

there are no blood clots from astrazeneca jab though?

don't give in to EU's political agenda, britain

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

there are no blood clots from astrazeneca jab though?

don't give in to EU's political agenda, britain

Its that age old distinction isnt it. There will be blood clots in some people who have had the vaccine, I would be surprised if there weren't, given the sheer numbers of people who have had the vaccine (yes, you could say theres been 100 people had a heart attack after getting the vaccine..ignoring that the people getting the vaccine at that stage were...the over 80s, who are at rather high risk of such things anyway...that does not in any way say the vaccine causes heart attacks though). The question is, were they CAUSED by the vaccine. The experts say no. So..who is saying yes? And pushing that yes into media outlets to spread the yes further, against the opinion of those vastly more qualified to make such assessments?!

[Nicky91]

15 dutch people travelled to Serbia to get vaccinated

[Nicky91]

EU people could achieve covid-19 vaccine immunity by Mid-July, says vaccine chief Thierry Breton

Breton, the EU commissioner in charge of the vaccine task force, had already suggested at the end of March that herd immunity would be possible in the EU by July 14th, as incoming jabs are expected to speed up the continent’s sluggish vaccine rollout.

On Monday, he confirmed his prediction to Le Parisien: “We now have good visibility of what is happening, from the production of vaccines to the distribution and tests,” he said.

“Fourteen million doses were delivered to the EU in January, 28 million in February and 60 million in March. For the next quarter, we will increase to 100 million in April, May and June. Then 120 million in the summer, and we will reach a rate of 200 million from September,” he said.

In the second half of the year as a whole, the EU will have received over 800 million doses, according to Breton.

The note of optimism came after several European countries have reimposed restrictions in an attempt to halt soaring Covid case numbers, and the World Health Organisation slammed Europe’s vaccine rollout as “unacceptably slow” on Thursday, saying that it was prolonging the pandemic.

“Vaccines present our best way out of the pandemic…However, the rollout of these vaccines is unacceptably slow,” WHO director for Europe Hans Kluge said in a statement.

So far, only about 10 percent of the region’s total population have received one vaccine dose, and four percent have completed a full vaccine series, the organisation said.

The WHO’s European region comprises 53 countries and territories and includes Russia and several Central Asian nations.

But when it comes to the EU’s slow vaccine rollout, Breton blamed the AstraZeneca laboratory.

“If we had received 100 percent of the AstraZeneca vaccines we were contractually owed, today the EU would be at the same level as the UK in terms of vaccination,” he said. “I can confirm that this hole is due entirely to AstraZeneca’s delivery failures.”

On Monday, Johnson & Johnson said it would start delivering its single-shot Covid vaccine to Europe on April 19th, giving the continent a boost in its vaccination drive.

The EU has signed a firm order for 200 million J&J doses and an option for 200 million more.

https://www.thelocal.de/20210405/eu-...vaccine-chief/

[Nicky91]

read my article i posted today, they are aware they have a slow vaccine rollout, and they would've loved to be up there with same amount of vaccinations as the UK, but facts are facts, there have just been some problems, and its just coincidence it is the AZ vaccine, there just weren't as many reports from the Pfizer vaccine, not as many or at least not the blood clots


regular side effects from vaccine are nausea, fever, sore arm (but these 'blood clots' are not normal so they caught our attention over here quicker)



Bots, i get it, you guys are biased since in UK, the AZ vaccine no problems at all or at least not that many (don't lie pls, there also have been some complaints in the UK)

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

read my article i posted today, they are aware they have a slow vaccine rollout, and they would've loved to be up there with same amount of vaccinations as the UK, but facts are facts, there have just been some problems, and its just coincidence it is the AZ vaccine, there just weren't as many reports from the Pfizer vaccine, not as many or at least not the blood clots


regular side effects from vaccine are nausea, fever, sore arm (but these 'blood clots' are not normal so they caught our attention over here quicker)



Bots, i get it, you guys are biased since in UK, the AZ vaccine no problems at all or at least not that many (don't lie pls, there also have been some complaints in the UK)

I am confused, I thought the EU decided that the AZ is not causing blood clots?!(maybe after consulting the actual experts...hmm) Sure thats the last I read. If/when they do admit this, then surely the 'bias' you claim the UK has..kind of..dissipates?!

Also, there is not a vaccine available in the bloody world that has not had at least some complaints. Such a thing would be a impossible thing to do, given the nature of medical stuff

[Cherry Christmas]

The UK are considering restricting AZ rollout in under 30s

Sky News

Meanwhile Australia are continuing to use the vaccine for all ages

Australia's medical regulator has recommended no changes to the vaccine rollout despite blood clotting in a recipient of the AstraZeneca jab.

Several urgent meetings have been held today after the 44-year-old was admitted to Melbourne's Box Hill Hospital with abdominal pain.

Acting Chief Medical Officer Professor Michael Kidd said "at this time the risk of serious disease and death from COVID-19 if we experience a severe outbreak especially among older Australians ... is far greater than the very small potential risk of a very rare clotting disorder".

People who experience unusual headaches 4-20 days after vaccination are being told to seek medical advice as soon as possible.

The TGA is working with European regulators as investigations continue and further advice is expected in coming days.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The UK are considering restricting AZ rollout in under 30s



Sky News



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Any reason ...


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[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Any reason ...


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Because its a bit pointless in that age group..and focus should be on people higher risk getting their seconds and stuff done before even considering a group thats almost at no risk of hospitalisation speaking broadly. I expect? I might be WAY off there mind. But it seems a little silly to be taking the time, or the cost on a group thats so low risk to begin with.

Wonder why the American vaccine ( Moderna ?) is apparently only one jab when all the others are two ??

Is that the johnsons one? Thats apparently one dose too, if not.

Remember when they said vaccines would take years to produce

From scratch, I think that is. From what I know, the covid ones are basically..tweaked SARS vaccines? It would be a lot slower to make a vaccine for a totally brand new illness that appeared. For all it was touted as a totally out of the blue newly appeared thing, coronaviruses are nothing new to us. This 'version' was, but not the illness overall.

[Alf]

Remember when they said vaccines would take years to produce and then President Trump and Warpspeed produced one inside a year. Where did all the other variants of vaccines suddenly come from?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

Remember when they said vaccines would take years to produce and then President Trump and Warpspeed produced one inside a year. Where did all the other variants of vaccines suddenly come from?

Wonder why the American vaccine ( Moderna ?) is apparently only one jab when all the others are two ??


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Wonder why the American vaccine ( Moderna ?) is apparently only one jab when all the others are two ??


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it's the johnson and Johnson vaccine that only requires 1 jab. It's a different technology. They are making 60 million dozes of it here in the UK for our use. That covers the entire UK population

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's the johnson and Johnson vaccine that only requires 1 jab. It's a different technology. They are making 60 million dozes of it here in the UK for our use. That covers the entire UK population

Jannsen as well is a one jab I think, my boss is in that trial

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Jannsen as well is a one jab I think, my boss is in that trial

it's the same company

[arista]