[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

this is why bombings are stupid, should've more been done another way, with special forces commando's highly trained to take down terrorist thugs, without killing too many innocent civilians


also ordering evacuations is likely to alert the terrorists in that area too


Benny doesn't think things through sadly (this new bombing incident is more food for his haters tbh)

if any of their Arab neighbours would let the non hamas people to flee to their country but they have no friends - Egypt wont touch them

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if any of their Arab neighbours would let the non hamas people to flee to their country but they have no friends - Egypt wont touch them

As I said in the other thread, other Arab countries in the region know full well the consequences of getting in the way of an indiscriminate west-sanctioned bombing campaign. How many countries reduced to rubble now? No one wants to be next on the list. You'll continue to ignore this and run with your own very thinly veiled agenda-driven narrative though.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Originally Posted by arista

At least she tell the cops
he has kidney disease.

Scottish Strong Voices
needs subtitles

https://twitter.com/LeoKearse/status...47471679275048

Leo Kearse:
[London's police arrest a man for asking:
"Why are they over here?
We let them into our country"
-at a march where people were chanting for
the extermination of Jews,
without any interference from the police.

London's police are under the control of Sadiq Khan.
This isn't just two tier policing, this is a takeover.
Hate speech laws are used to protect violent
bigots and persecute anyone who questions them.

This is only going to get worse under Labour.]

It's almost like the police know where the violence will come from if they intervene.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Liam-]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Labou think that now is a good time to has light the Great British public

You could not make it up..

[bots]

That's been done to appease all the people deserting the labour party

[bots]

The warning from the director of the FBI this week was stark.

Addressing a Senate panel alongside the US Homeland Security Secretary on Tuesday, Director Christopher Gray said the terror threat to Americans had been "elevated throughout 2023" but after 7 October Hamas attacks on Israel it had risen "to a whole other level".

It is a concern shared on both sides of the Atlantic with the UK prime minister chairing a Cobra crisis meeting on Monday attended by MI5 and counter-terrorism policing to discuss how to mitigate the increased threat of terrorism.

The UK government suspects Iranian agents may be actively stoking unrest amongst the recent pro-Palestinian protests in British cities.

Currently, the UK national terror threat level, set by the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre, remains unchanged at substantial - meaning a terrorist attack is thought "likely".

But, the surge in violence in the Middle East has led counter-terrorism officials to worry about two areas of increased threat.

One of those comes from the growing international outrage at the very high level of civilian casualties amongst Palestinians caused by Israel's air and artillery strikes on Gaza as it seeks to eliminate Hamas’s fighting capabilities.

The other is the risk extremist groups could be inspired by the Hamas-led attacks on Israel on 7 October.

The FBI Director told senators those actions "will serve as an inspiration the likes of which we haven’t seen since ISIS launched its so-called caliphate years ago".

[Liam-]

[bots]

so now you are sharing blatant antisemitic stuff

[joeysteele]

If the aid trucks are to be allowed in then why aren't all the aid trucks really needed being allowed to do so.

All that's being said is aid is being allowed in but nowhere near anything like enough will be.

This is really getting worrying now.
Probably not too just for this area of the middle East but the wider World too.

The UK for instance has always either made or contributed to, and left almost as much a mess as when they allowed themselves to get involved in Middle East situations.
It's like the major powers and possible influences are just in a talking shop and not making any push to bring peace, even a fragile one again, to the region.
The UK, our PM and government included..
They seem impotent rather than just soundbites.

Starmer hasn't an answer either.

Plus where are the LibDems, sitting on the fence as usual contributing little to nothing even to the debate.

While the UK citizens it appears are getting confused and growingly fatigued at words not backed up with more peaceful efforts action.

This is now going into the 4th week of this.
Yet the only seeming outcome is a much greater bloodbath to come for both sides.
What an almighty mess.

[arista]

[arista]

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

so now you are sharing blatant antisemitic stuff

Where’s the antisemitism?

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

so now you are sharing blatant antisemitic stuff

not sure why this is allowed tbh

[arista]

On Twitter

The Evil Hamas Leader
has said today he will give Israel
a Second and third wave
Until they are all dead.


So he is Matching what the
Israel Leader keeps saying about Hamas
that every Hamas person will be killed.


SNAP

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

not sure why this is allowed tbh

because we are all entitled of our own opinions, freedom of speech

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

What does a random old woman have to do with anything?

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2023/11/01/bij1-a...tch-pms-office

Activists from the BIJ1 party projected the slogan "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" onto the Mauritshuis in The Hague, the building that is located next to the Prime Minister's office. The party reported this on X. The slogan is deemed antisemitic by some because it is interpreted as denying Israel's right to exist.

The party, which holds one seat in the Tweede Kamer, the lower house of the Dutch parliament, said it aims with this action “to oppose the ever-increasing pressure on our freedom of expression to show solidarity with the Palestinians and their struggle against the colonization of the country.”

The slogan expressed the desire for a Palestinian state stretching from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, areas that encompass both the Palestinian territories and the entire land area of Israel. It is controversial and is perceived by some as a call for the end of the state of Israel, while others see it primarily as a statement of support for the Palestinian cause.

The use of the slogan has been prohibited in the Tweede Kamer, the lower house of the Dutch parliament, due to its perceived antisemitic connotation. Several politicians, including VVD leader Dilan Yeşilgöz and GroenLinks-PvdA party leader Frans Timmermans, are against its use.

Parties like BIJ1 and DENK, on the contrary, argue the slogan advocates for a single state that includes space for Jewish residents. "In reality, the slogan is a call for equal rights for Palestinians and an end to the occupation by Israel,” BIJ said on Wednesday.

The projection was a "totally disgusting action," according to Naomi Mestrum, director of the Center for Information and Documentation Israel (CIDI), AD reported. "I don't understand what they aim to achieve with this and why they seek further polarization. I see no effort here to even try to prevent escalating tensions in our country. It's unnecessary and particularly deceitful. Essentially calling for the disappearance of Israel is terrible," she added.

The Central Jewish Consultation (CJO) announced in a statement that it is considering legal action against the activisits. The organization "is deeply concerned that a political party in the Netherlands is trying to poison the debate in this manner," pointing out that the slogan "is widely recognized as a call for genocide against Israel's more than 7 million Jewish residents." The CJO also called on politicians to "speak out in the strongest terms" against BIJ1's action.

On X, PVV MP Martin Bosma referred to it as "a call for genocide by a Dutch political party elected to the Tweede Kamer."

D66 MP Alexander Hammelburg stated on X that "a slogan that for many is equivalent to a call for the destruction of Israel and its Jewish citizens is threatening and unnecessary in advocating for peace and a two-state solution."

Amsterdam mayor Femke Halsema previously said the slogan was "unacceptable" and asked the Public Prosecution Service (OM) to investigate whether its use is punishable. This summer, the Amsterdam District Court ruled that its use was not punishable in a case involving a demonstrator who chanted the slogan in 2021.

[arista]

Good job, Nicky
it can only work at Night Time.

[Nicky91]

not appropriate timing from Bij1 at all, around times of elections


although they are the least popular party here so already long before this stunt of theirs

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

because we are all entitled of our own opinions, freedom of speech

Oh Nicky as you well know too people are NOT allowed that if they dare to say anything against Israeli leaders, government and actions regardless of what they do.
Our own PM has said on behalf of the UK.
That the UK stands with Israel ALWAYS.
Therefore as in always a blank cheque given no matter what Israel may do.

I support Israel but I care too for the ordinary Palestinian people.
I am becoming more and more disillusioned and concerned at the rhetoric from Israel.
The UN is pointing out concerns as to Israel's leadership plans of action.
Two wrongs cannot make a right.
I'd give no side any blank cheque.

.... and that is NOT antisemitism which some would accuse me of and others thinking the same way.
It makes a near mockery of what real and true antisemitism is.
I've had it for years on here and frankly it's tedious and insulting.

The antisemitism accusations are spouted out regularly on any criticism of Israel.
Not approving of and not supporting everything the Israeli leader and governnent say and do is NOT in any way criticism of the Israeli population.
It is NOT antisemitism.

There should be rules and even a law, in my view, to stop wild accusations of antisemitism against people.
Who in the main are only concerned for the peace and welfare of both Israelis and Palestinians.
However it does really say more about those firing those wild accusations of antisemitism than it says about anyone else.