[arista]

[bots]

labour really got away without talking about any of their policies in detail, so its going to be interesting how that all pans out. I have to say that labour showed enormous discipline throughout the campaign and that's just not going to continue, so that will be another interesting area. I can see labour mp's getting frustrated quickly when they finally realise the money just isn't there to do all that they want and the revenue from their tax adjustments just won't cut it. I mean "getting the nhs back on track" is an almost impossible milestone to achieve

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reform UK got more votes than the Lib Dems and the Lib Dems got 66 more seats than Reform UK😵

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Reform UK got more votes than the Lib Dems and the Lib Dems got 66 more seats than Reform UK😵

the lib dems got less share of the vote than when the clegg variant got wiped out

labour won a landslide with a share of the vote that resulted in their biggest loss in 100 years 4 years ago

The important thing is that the public wanted the tories out, and that was spectacularly successful. There were 10 cabinet ministers plus a few senior tories that got booted out last night and will probably never return

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by arista

6 Independent MP's now

Pro Gaza invaders

Alarmed at that tbh and not something I saw anyone talking about before the election

Are we basically going to have a Muslim Brotherhood faction in parliament?

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Alarmed at that tbh and not something I saw anyone talking about before the election

Are we basically going to have a Muslim Brotherhood faction in parliament?

yes, there are now nailed on extremists in the british parliament

[Beso]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Alarmed at that tbh and not something I saw anyone talking about before the election

Are we basically going to have a Muslim Brotherhood faction in parliament?

Just you wait until sadiq Kahn takes over from starmer next year.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Alarmed at that tbh and not something I saw anyone talking about before the election

Are we basically going to have a Muslim Brotherhood faction in parliament?

The pretend face of compassionate conservatism is never far away from straying into full on racism

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The pretend face of compassionate conservatism is never far away from straying into full on racism

and ignoring the real threat of sectarian politics to win a fictitious culture war is why the threat exists

[The Slim Reaper]

The raghead faction, I believe they want to be known as.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The pretend face of compassionate conservatism is never far away from straying into full on racism

Yes certainly agree there is now an issue of people wearing pretend faces of compassionate humanitarianism whose actual end goal is division, sectarianism, intimidation and bigotry

Enabled by many who'd rather stick their heads in the sand

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Alarmed at that tbh and not something I saw anyone talking about before the election

Are we basically going to have a Muslim Brotherhood faction in parliament?

Could be
they need to take control of them

[MTVN]

Surprised Hunt kept his seat, expect he'll go for leader now and will end up against either Badenoch or Braverman

Tory vote actually held up better than I expected overall given the strength of the Reform vote share

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Surprised Hunt kept his seat, expect he'll go for leader now and will end up against either Badenoch or Braverman

Tory vote actually held up better than I expected overall given the strength of the Reform vote share

I wouldn't actually hate Hunt as the new Tory leader. He's somewhat likeable.

[bots]

Nobody is interested in picking a new tory leader. If Sunak can stay on for a few months, that would be the best strategy for the interim.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Vote share top bar

Seats won bottom bar

[bots]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Nobody is interested in picking a new tory leader. If Sunak can stay on for a few months, that would be the best strategy for the interim.

scratch that, he has just stood down

[Alf]

Labour 9.6m votes - over 400 seats

Reform 4m votes - 4 seats

Each labour mp represents 24,000 people. Each Reform MP represents 1m people.



Over 80 percent of the country didn't vote for this government.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Labour 9.6m votes - over 400 seats

Reform 4m votes - 4 seats


Over 80 percent of the country didn't vote for this government.

It's the political system we have in the UK which is anti-democratic.

We need to shift to PR.

There are some dire warnings for labour (which is insane to say after that majority).

Starmer only received half the votes he got in 2019 in his own seat.

The swing back to the right will be hard and fast unless he addresses the inequalities in society. Lab have 10 years at best to get this right, otherwise the countery will be really screwed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LAURA PERRINS: "It is a truth universally acknowledged by sensible people that outright
loathing of your base is a vote loser. The Tories have learned the hard way that this is what
happens if you betray your core vote for years."

[joeysteele]

Votes can be near irrelevant in this now absurd electoral system we have.

Our electoral system of government is NOT about votes it's who can win the most seats only
That's why we need PR to get a fuller representation of seats FOR votes.
Not seats despite of votes.

Indeed I don't like Reform or Farage at all in any way.
However they got more votes than the LibDems yet got only 4 seats, whereas the LibDems 70+.

If some Party planned it carefully enough they could choose 326 seats they believed they could win, only contest them, win by a handful of votes in them.
Yet be the government under this ridiculous voting system.

Just as in a seat, you get an MP elected, like the Labour one in Liz Truss's seat.
Where he got around 11,000 + votes.
She got a few hundred less.
The 3rd placed candidate had around 10,000.

He didn't even get a third of the votes yet he is MP with all those votes against him.
Under this ridiculous voting system.

All that matters is he got the highest number of votes.
To get the seat.

What's really democratic about that !!!!

[arista]

[arista]

[Welsh Secretary David Davies,
Culture Secretary Lucy Frazer,
Science minister Michelle Donelan,
Education Secretary Gillian Keegan and
Justice Secretary Alex Chalk were beaten
during a traumatic night for the Tories.
Altogether at least 16 ministers have gone,
with Johnny Mercer and Therese Coffey beaten by Labour.

Jacob Rees-Mogg also tumbled
in North East Somerset and Hanham.]

And Liz Truss has gone

[Crimson Dynamo]

3rd lowest turnout since 1918

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

3rd lowest turnout since 1918

Also unsurprising; people are bored and tired. The same thing is happening in the US amongst "normal" voters, I hear. You have the screeching kids on one side and the whining Trump stans on the other, and in the middle 80% of the population looking at Biden and Trump, shrugging and saying "This is a joke I don't care any more."

I'll be totally honest and say that yes I voted, because we were out in the car for some dinner and shopping anyway, and my wife was voting, so I was there and voted.

If, let's say, my wife had voted on the way to work and we hadn't needed to pop out for anything - would I have gone to vote? I can't 100% say that I would. There was 0 possibility of it being anything other than Labour or SNP. I wasn't all that bothered which. I'd probably not have bothered to tie my shoes.

And I'm a politically engaged individual - imagine for someone who doesn't even generally engage with it?