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King Gizzard · 07-09-2010, 01:46 AM

Nah...someone that looked like a girl lol

King Gizzard · 07-09-2010, 01:46 AM

Actually vettel looks a bit like a girl to but its not him lol

Iceman · 07-09-2010, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate

Nah...someone that looked like a girl lol

Um Nico Rosberg?

King Gizzard · 07-09-2010, 01:53 AM

Thats the one!

Iceman · 07-09-2010, 01:57 AM

He's doing well...beating michael Schumacher a lot

pinkmichk · 07-09-2010, 09:13 AM

ooooh yay monza will be able to watch fp 1&2 & the race

Iceman · 07-09-2010, 04:28 PM

Fernando Alonso will find out on Wednesday if his world title aspirations are still intact after the World Motor Sport Council hearing in Paris.

The Spaniard could be stripped of his German Grand Prix victory with Ferrari accused of using team orders during a race that saw team-mate Felipe Massa move aside to allow Alonso past.

Should that be the case Alonso will fall 66 points behind championship leader Lewis Hamilton with six races remaining.

However, the general feeling is that the team will bear the brunt of the pain in the form of a fine and a penalty in the constructors' standings.

World champion Jenson Button admitted he would be surprised if Alonso is docked any points.

"I don't think the drivers will get a penalty," said the McLaren driver. "If they do get another penalty it will be for the team because it was an order from the team.

"Personally I don't understand why they just don't swap the points around for those two, but you can't do that within the regulations."

Ferrari's argument will centre on the fact that no explicit order was given to Massa for him to cede the lead, and eventually the win, to Alonso.

Instead, Massa was simply told twice by engineer Rob Smedley over the pit-to-car radio that Alonso was faster than him, the message repeated as the Brazilian did not respond to the initial remark.

Despite protestations of innocence from Alonso, Massa and team principal Stefano Domenicali, Ferrari were found to be in breach of article 39.1 of the FIA 2010 sporting regulations that states 'team orders which interfere with a race result are prohibited'.

Ferrari were also charged with a breach of article 151c of the FIA international sporting code relating to 'any fraudulent conduct, or any act prejudicial to the interests of any competition, or to the interests of motor sport generally'.

Ordinarily, the WMSC would be chaired by FIA president Jean Todt, but due to a conflict of interests given his former role as team principal of Ferrari, he will stand down in favour of his deputy, Graham Stoker, a London barrister.

pinkmichk · 07-09-2010, 05:08 PM

both ferraris & the teams points from germany removed & race ban for monza is what i'd like to see happen

Iceman · 07-09-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkmichk

both ferraris & the teams points from germany removed & race ban for monza is what i'd like to see happen

nah, too harsh......this is nowhere near as bad as spygate so it shoul be same I reckon, suspended sentence and constructor points gone!

Iceman · 08-09-2010, 03:32 PM

ferrari decision befor 6pm apparently.

Iceman · 08-09-2010, 04:10 PM

Ferrari escape with no punishment! (cheers inside a bit hehe)

James · 08-09-2010, 04:10 PM

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Ferrari escape further punishment over team orders controversy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/

Iceman · 08-09-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by James

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/

Ferrari have emerged unscathed from a hearing into the team orders controversy that overshadowed Fernando Alonso's victory at the German Grand Prix.

Team bosses were accused of ordering team-mate Felipe Massa to let Alonso pass him to allow the Spaniard to triumph at Hockenheim.

More to follow....

pinkmichk · 08-09-2010, 05:44 PM

meh said all i'm gonna say on the matter on twitter all i hope for is a mclaren 1-2 on the ferrari home turf

Iceman · 08-09-2010, 06:13 PM

We are tifosi we do what we want, we are tifosi come and sing along!

pinkmichk · 09-09-2010, 08:56 AM

no :P

Iceman · 09-09-2010, 11:32 AM

Can't wait for the race now......I've decided to switch channels that I watch it on, no more anti Schumi BBC for me

Iceman · 09-09-2010, 02:50 PM

Jacques Villeneuve is refusing to let go of his dream of owning a F1 team despite the FIA rejecting his bid to have the 13th outfit on the grid.

The former World Champion teamed up with Durango to apply for the 13th place on next year's grid, however, instead of filling the slot, the FIA announced on Wednesday that the 2011 grid would remain at 12 teams.

"It was considered that none of the candidates met the requirements to be granted an entry into the Championship," motorsport's governing body said in a statement. "Consequently, the allocation of the 13th team will not be granted."

Villeneuve, though, says he's not giving up and now will turn to his back-up plan, which is to purchase one of the existing Formula One teams.

"We will now return to our original plan, which was our plan B, that is to say, to takeover one of the existing teams," the 39-year-old told Rue Frontenac.

"It will probably cost more and we must ensure that we have a free hand with the team. We do not want to be with partners we would not have chosen.

"We will also see that there are contracts in place to avoid them interfering with our plans.

"For example, we have tremendous confidence in the design of our car. We want to be able to use it, not to have the old design already in place imposed on us."

"I still have to sit with my partners and establish a strategy.

"However, I am pleased that we continued to work on NASCAR. Things are going well on that side."

Iceman · 09-09-2010, 04:55 PM

Kimi Raikkonen is the third highest-paid driver in Formula One - despite competing in the World Rally Championship and not the flagship open-cockpit series.

The 2007 world champion's bumper pay-off from Ferrari amounts to a £13.1 million salary this season, just over half the £24.6m picked up by the man who replaced him, double champion Fernando Alonso.

Alonso is fifth in the current World Championship.

Briton Lewis Hamilton, the champion in 2008, is second and also on £13.1m, according to a report in El Mundo.

His compatriot and McLaren team-mate Jenson Button will earn £7.4m over the course of the year after jumping ship from Brawn GP, now the Mercedes factory squad, in the winter. He is fifth in the list, behind Ferrari's Felipe Massa (£11.5m) despite his status as reigning world champion.

Seven-times title winner Michael Schumacher is being paid £6.6m on his return to the top flight, the same as Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg.

Surprisingly championship leader Mark Webber comes in at 10th - his salary is £3.5m - while highly-rated team-mate and title hopeful Sebastian Vettel will only see £1.6m basic for his work this season, an amount which puts him 12th in the 26-man list.

However both Red Bull drivers are understood to be on substantial bonuses for race victories, of which Webber has recorded four and Vettel two so far this season.

Behind Ferrari (£49.1m) and McLaren (£20.5m) in the teams' driver spend are Mercedes (£13.1m), Renault (£6.5m), Red Bull and Williams (both £5.1m).

Hispania Racing offer the lowest salaries by some distance, with just £123,000 outgoing from their accounts for that purpose.

Bruno Senna, who picks up that £123,000 - other drivers Karun Chandhok and Sakon Yamamoto are not paid - earns roughly 200 times less than Spaniard Alonso.

The full list:

Drivers

1. Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) £24.6m

2. Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) £13.1m

3. Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) £13.1m

4. Felipe Massa (Ferrari) £11.5m

5. Jenson Button (McLaren) £7.4m

6. Michael Schumacher (Mercedes GP) £6.6m

7. Nico Rosberg (Mercedes GP) £6.6m

8. Robert Kubica (Renault) £6.2m

9. Rubens Barrichello (Williams) £4.5m

10. Mark Webber (Red Bull) £3.4m

11. Jarno Trulli (Lotus) £2.5m

12. Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull) £1.6m

13. Heikki Kovalainen (Lotus) £1.6m

14. Timo Glock (Virgin) £820,000

15. Nico Hülkenberg (Williams) £573,000

16. Pedro de la Rosa (Sauber) £410,000

17. Kamui Kobayashi (Sauber) £410,000

18. Vitaly Petrov (Renault) £328,000

19. Jaime Alguersuari (Toro Rosso) £328,000

20. Sébastien Buemi (Toro Rosso) £328,000

21. Adrian Sutil (Force India) £164,000

22. Vitantonio Liuzzi (Force India) £164,000

23. Lucas Di Grassi (Virgin) £164,000

24. Bruno Senna (Hispania) £164,000

25. Karun Chandhok (Hispania) Nil

26. Sakon Yamamoto (Hispania) Nil

Teams

1. Ferrari £49.1m

2. McLaren £20.5m

3. Mercedes GP £13.1m

4. Renault £6.5m

5. Red Bull £5.1m

6. Williams £5.1m

7. Lotus £4.1m

8. Virgin £983,000

9. Sauber £819,000

10. Toro Rosso £655,000

11. Force India £328,000

12. Hispania £123,000
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