[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Bc it damages the country

We can get over that,

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

We can get over that,

There no need to inflict it in the first place

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

No integrity left, brexit is a cult

I wouldn't call it an actually cult, but there's definitely elements in there. People have been brought together through this issue, but I know leavers disagree with each other on a number of different issues. But leaving the EU is non negotiable until the people's decision has been implemented.

[Oliver_W]

What law did be actually break, specifically? I'm not defending him, I barely care, it's just not been specified.

[Kizzy]

It's like groundhog day in there... everyone knows why there can't be a GE yet... Can't risk no deal so what is toby young and Cox so surprised about?
They were having the exact same conversations 3 weeks ago!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's like groundhog day in there... everyone knows why there can't be a GE yet... Can't risk no deal so what is toby young and Cox so surprised about?
They were having the exact same conversations 3 weeks ago!

I've tried to explain it again.Kizzy.
It's pretty easy to understand isn't it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I've tried to explain it again.Kizzy.
It's pretty easy to understand isn't it.

They understand it fine, they're deliberately recycling conversations to waste time. "Running down the clock" has always been part of the tactic.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They understand it fine, they're deliberately recycling conversations to waste time. "Running down the clock" has always been part of the tactic.

Spot on TS.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What law did be actually break, specifically? I'm not defending him, I barely care, it's just not been specified.

Prorogation is not for frustrating parliament business. The court said he had no reason for prorogation

[user104658]

It might as well not be open. Endless filibustering and propaganda

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It might as well not be open. Endless filibustering and propaganda

Well Spotted
TS a proud Scot

[joeysteele]

No opposition party wants an election until no deal is off the table and an extension assured.
It's been said hundteds of times.

Even moreso now, since we have a PM who has been found to act unlawfully.

We had an election in 2017 which Labour supported when Labour was supposed to be 20% behind Mrs May's Cons.

No one's frightened of an election.

The fear is this lying PM would use it, to steer the UK to a no deal brexit during it.
If he asks for the extension then he gets an election.
If Johnson really wants one.
Why doesn't HE ask for the extension first.

[Tom4784]

No deal brexit should scare anyone who actually understands the ramifications of it. The vast majority of people who want no deal brexit do not know what they are asking for, they don't know that they are basically ****ing themselves over so the elites can get a better tax deal. It's sad.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

No deal brexit should scare anyone who actually understands the ramifications of it. The vast majority of people who want no deal brexit do not know what they are asking for, they don't know that they are basically ****ing themselves over so the elites can get a better tax deal. It's sad.

But on the Next General Election
you can Elect Marxist Corbyn.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

No deal brexit should scare anyone who actually understands the ramifications of it. The vast majority of people who want no deal brexit do not know what they are asking for, they don't know that they are basically ****ing themselves over so the elites can get a better tax deal. It's sad.

What are some of the scariest ramifications, in your opinion?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What are some of the scariest ramifications, in your opinion?

For me, the worst case scenario has always been the destruction of the NHS and a no deal brexit will put it in more danger then it's ever been. You've also got the issue of medical supply shortages being on the more 'Hopeful' outcomes of no deal.

If the NHS goes under because of the stupidity of morons wanting no deal when they won't pay heed to the damage it causes because they'd rather focus on false hope instead of reality then I'll never forgive them and I'd want every single ****ing one of them named and shamed for aiding in the destruction of our greatest strength.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What are some of the scariest ramifications, in your opinion?

A return to violence in NI and possibly the UK mainland and the ROI

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

A return to violence in NI and possibly the UK mainland and the ROI

Widespread riots and violence was predicted by the Yellowhammer papers, if I remember right. Medical shortages will be a given too.

All of this carnage is something people who cry for No Deal are willing to accept as long as they get a sense of victory from it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

A return to violence in NI and possibly the UK mainland and the ROI

That's a really major concern.
Which seems to either be overlooked or dismissed by those clamouring for no deal.

This wasn't mentioned enough in the referendum.
Which really is, no matter how anyone looks at it, is shocking.

With the fears of any return to violence and even the slightest possible concern as to the preservation of the Good Friday agreement.
If there was ever just ONE single reason to go back to the UK voters or stop brexit altogether.
The N Ireland and safety too of the Republic of Ireland issue should be that paramount reason.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

A return to violence in NI and possibly the UK mainland and the ROI

Is it there not already
there.

[Twosugars]

A good post on Guardian boards

A Question for "BeLeavers":

How did you come from preaching all of us about parliamentary sovereignty (representing the people)...
to now support giving absolute power to "unelected beaurocrats in No.10" who act like they are above the law?

___________________________________

The game was given away when the charlatan was in his homeland yesterday(sulking with his orange buffoon master) saying that the supreme court ruling is an effort to frustrate Brexit...
Yet government lawyers argued in court that prorogation was nothing to do with Brexit.

I remember the days when Bill Cash gave impassioned speeches in parliament about its sovereignty.
In fact for the past 40 years, he hasn't stop telling us about the powers held by so-called "unelected beaurocrats in Brussels".

Yesterday was another great day for "BeLeavers".
The supreme court upheld what you voted for...parliamentary sovereignty and UK courts ruling on our laws.
"BeLeavers" should be happy as this ruling can not be challenged in the European court of Justice.
There you have it...the ruling of the highest court in our land is final.

[Twosugars]

Gove claims the automotive sector is ready for no deal but
TWO days ago automotive lobby chief Hawes said in a press release: "A ‘no deal’ Brexit would have an immediate and devastating impact on the industry, undermining competitiveness and causing irreversible and severe damage... risks destroying this vital pillar of our economies.”

Jesus wept

[Parmy]

A return to violence...I think that happened the day the young journalist got shot../murdered.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Is it there not already
there.

Originally Posted by parmnion

A return to violence...I think that happened the day the young journalist got shot../murdered.

You don't think it will get worse though when/if borders go up? But of course in this situation even if they decide to put the border in the sea, you will have the loyalist side unhappy and probably violence from there. It will be very hard to please both

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You don't think it will get worse though when/if borders go up? But of course in this situation even if they decide to put the border in the sea, you will have the loyalist side unhappy and probably violence from there. It will be very hard to please both

We are not Putting Up Any Poxy Borders