[arista]

Vaccine Wars
Jonathan Pie: Gives his Anger (Rated 18)


Vicky
Ideal for you madame


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bJEdcmpx98

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: as of 19 April 2021

per 100 adults there have been 34 jabs administered, with these statistics Netherlands is middle of the board in Europe as for vaccine rollout

[Nicky91]

Germany doing well as for vaccine rollout now

21.9 million people total vaccinated now

16.4 million first dose total

5.5 million second dose total

as of yesterday (what i saw last night on RTLde text page)

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Im hoping that Europe will have vaccinated enough people soon.
That should help to bring their numbers down.

[arista]

People vaccinated up to and including 19 April 2021

First dose: 33,032,120

Second dose: 10,425,790

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Smithy]

Got my second one on saturday, I’m a bit worried bc everyone says it hits you harder than the first one

[bots]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Got my second one on saturday, I’m a bit worried bc everyone says it hits you harder than the first one

my brother had his 2nd last week and said there were no side effects at all

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Got my second one on saturday, I’m a bit worried bc everyone says it hits you harder than the first one

...awwww, so pleased for you, Smithy...it’s Tuesday now and you’re feeling fine...?..so try not to think about it ...I know a few people who have had a second and no effects at all other than their immunity complete......I’m so glad that you’ve had it, though and another one that Boris can cross of the list...excellent, skinny legend and Vaccine legend.....

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

my brother had his 2nd last week and said there were no side effects at all

How old is he?

It seems to affect younger people more

Originally Posted by Ammi

...awwww, so pleased for you, Smithy...it’s Tuesday now and you’re feeling fine...?..so try not to think about it ...I know a few people who have had a second and no effects at all other than their immunity complete......I’m so glad that you’ve had it, though and another one that Boris can cross of the list...excellent, skinny legend and Vaccine legend.....

Girl I’ve been so ill the last few weeks I haven’t eaten since Saturday

[bots]

Originally Posted by Smithy

How old is he?

It seems to affect younger people more

he is older than me, so ... not young I felt the first jab, not as bad as some but i certainly felt pretty crap for a day

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Smithy

How old is he?

It seems to affect younger people more


Girl I’ve been so ill the last few weeks I haven’t eaten since Saturday

...have you spoken to your GP, Smithy...?..if you’ve felt ill for several weeks now and you haven’t eaten for 3 days, you must speak to your surgery, yeah...?......did you say all of this when you had the second vaccination..?...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Got my second one on saturday, I’m a bit worried bc everyone says it hits you harder than the first one

What brand? My wife (33) has had both Pfizer doses and the second one had no side effects at all really: Sore arm and a little tired that evening. Fewer side effects than the first dose (although she didn’t have many for that either, just general tiredness for a couple of days).

Whereas AZ dose 1 kicked my arse for about 3 days.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he is older than me, so ... not young I felt the first jab, not as bad as some but i certainly felt pretty crap for a day

Oh that’s probably why then

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

What brand? My wife (33) has had both Pfizer doses and the second one had no side effects at all really: Sore arm and a little tired that evening. Fewer side effects than the first dose (although she didn’t have many for that either, just general tiredness for a couple of days).

Whereas AZ dose 1 kicked my arse for about 3 days.

AZ

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Oh that’s probably why then


AZ

I’ve heard AZ 2nd dose tends to be easier than the first, most people saying the 2nd one hits hard are Pfizer: Though it’s basically just different for everyone I think.

[Candy Annie Cane]

I have my first a week tomorrow.

[bots]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I have my first a week tomorrow.

whoo .. good stuff, make sure you get your sticker

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I have my first a week tomorrow.

.....

[arista]

[Nicky91]

i'm still confident i am not letting myself be vaccinated

i don't want that junk inside of me every single year

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/0...lares-it-safe/

Netherlands begins with using Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) vaccine, after EMA had declared it safe

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/0...lares-it-safe/

Netherlands begins with using Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) vaccine, after EMA had declared it safe

They said exactly the same thing about Janssen as they did with AZ

The benefits outweigh the risks of rare clots

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They said exactly the same thing about Janssen as they did with AZ

The benefits outweigh the risks of rare clots

Fighting a losing battle here I think cherie

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Fighting a losing battle here I think cherie

[Vicky.]

Obviously anecdotally, but it seems among those I know, the AZ vaccine hits HARD if you have had covid previously. This is first and second dose. Among those who 'have not had' (ie, generally not had a positive test, though they could have had it with no symptoms or whatever) covid, first dose is easy, second harsh. Speaking generally just from what I have heard.

My dad, gavins mam and gavin all had covid and got a day or two of feeling ****ty off the first jab. Gavs brother, and his wife had not had covid, and felt nowt off first jab. However, his brother has had second one now and got period of illness similar to other people got off first. This seems to be following with friends too, though it does seem one person I know, who had confirmed covid last year, has not had any side effects at all off either jab...but that seems to be the exception rather than the rule!

Not sure on pfizer though as it seems near everyone here is getting AZ.

This means nowt really. But am finding it all a bit interesting I have to say. The immune system is such a weird thing really..

Ontop of this of course you have to figure in that people are more likely to tell others about their reactions if they are bad. Like, you are much more likely to hear is X was ill off it, than that they got it and were fine. Which scews perception somewhat

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Obviously anecdotally, but it seems among those I know, the AZ vaccine hits HARD if you have had covid previously. This is first and second dose. Among those who 'have not had' (ie, generally not had a positive test, though they could have had it with no symptoms or whatever) covid, first dose is easy, second harsh. Speaking generally just from what I have heard.

My dad, gavins mam and gavin all had covid and got a day or two of feeling ****ty off the first jab. Gavs brother, and his wife had not had covid, and felt nowt off first jab. However, his brother has had second one now and got period of illness similar to other people got off first. This seems to be following with friends too, though it does seem one person I know, who had confirmed covid last year, has not had any side effects at all off either jab...but that seems to be the exception rather than the rule!

Not sure on pfizer though as it seems near everyone here is getting AZ.

This means nowt really. But am finding it all a bit interesting I have to say. The immune system is such a weird thing really..

Ontop of this of course you have to figure in that people are more likely to tell others about their reactions if they are bad. Like, you are much more likely to hear is X was ill off it, than that they got it and were fine. Which scews perception somewhat

I'd say it hit me moderately hard - no fever or anything but I'd describe it as feeling like I'd had no sleep for 3 days no matter how much sleep I got, I felt a bit "floaty" like I wasn't really here or couldn't concentrate and I had a banging headache at the base of my skull (the blood clots obviously).

It is POSSIBLE that I had Covid in early May 2020 but I never had a test so I guess now we'll never know...