[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by lime

You are correct,there is regular aid the size of the convoy getting through to Palestine,the problem is ,its not enough hence the reason the UN are saying there is a humanitarian crisis in Palestine.So you are wrong to say its being "pumped "in.
I really don't know what comes under the category of Weapons of mass destruction ,but seriously cement and pasta????

But the aid that the floatilla was bringing in was only equal to one weekly amount of aid that they usually get. It was really... pointless. Other than a political stunt I have no idea what the point of it was.

[MassiveTruck]

Joe Biden

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6516TK20100603

finally, somebody with some perspective.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

Joe Biden

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6516TK20100603

finally, somebody with some perspective.

LOL! I bet that leftie liberal Obama supporters are angry now

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

LOL! I bet that leftie liberal Obama supporters are angry now

LOL, probably but they are not as impulsive over there than over in Europe. They have a huge news industry in the US that gives masses of differing perspectives. We are strangled by the BBC and the money we pump into it.

[lime]

[QUOTE=MassiveTruck;3284994]

Aid is always going into Gaza on a regular basis. The only people complaining are charity workers who have donors and investors to please, most of them from an Islamic persuasion, persuading another revolt against Jews as they've been told from birth that Jews are evil and so are Christians according to Islam.

No you are wrong.
Charity workers are not the only people "complaining"

But to say that the reason charities UNICEF ,Concern etc are only complaining is because they are trying to please their donors "most of them from an Islamic persuasion is BS.

Listen ,I am not a fan of religion don't have a copy of any of the "good books"
and really don't care who anyone's sky daddy is but the blockade is WRONG as most world leaders are saying .

I think its quite clear that the point of the flotilla was to highlight the blockade.
I am sure that everyone on board did not expect a welcome party from the IDF but I do not believe they knew they would be shot.
In saying that was really annoyed to see that mother whom brought her child,only a toddler on flotilla with her

[MojoNixon]

EU is wasting our money to Gaza. Hamas is controlling money/aid flood, and still they won't do anything to that.

[setanta]

Look, I have Israeli relations, with my uncle in law having served in their equivelant of the Navy Seals, and even I can see what a botch up this is. They've been condemned even by their allies and I really don't know how they can talk themselves outta this one. It'll be interesting to speak to my aunt about it!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by setanta

Look, I have Israeli relations, with my uncle in law having served in their equivelant of the Navy Seals, and even I can see what a botch up this is. They've been condemned even by their allies and I really don't know how they can talk themselves outta this one. It'll be interesting to speak to my aunt about it!

do you condone the the attacks on the Israeli soldiers as they boarded the boats?

[setanta]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

do you condone the the attacks on the Israeli soldiers as they boarded the boats?

Yes, they were acting like pirates and the crew had every right to feel aggrieved and hostile.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by setanta

Look, I have Israeli relations, with my uncle in law having served in their equivelant of the Navy Seals

Somehow i doubt that.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by lime

No you are wrong.
Charity workers are not the only people "complaining"

But to say that the reason charities UNICEF ,Concern etc are only complaining is because they are trying to please their donors "most of them from an Islamic persuasion is BS.

Listen ,I am not a fan of religion don't have a copy of any of the "good books"
and really don't care who anyone's sky daddy is but the blockade is WRONG as most world leaders are saying .

I think its quite clear that the point of the flotilla was to highlight the blockade.
I am sure that everyone on board did not expect a welcome party from the IDF but I do not believe they knew they would be shot.
In saying that was really annoyed to see that mother whom brought her child,only a toddler on flotilla with her

Nonsense. Utter nonsense.

Unicef have nothing to do with this floatilla and neither does any of the major charities either. This was run by Islamic charities who have nothing more than an Islamic interest when most of the people in Gaza and the West Bank, Muslims get by with the aid. Unicef already, alongside the red cross, Amnesty international, The Red Cross have a relationship with Israel to bring in aid and I know this because a number of my muslim, that's muslim, friends are in the gaza strip seeing that aid gets through.


They were bringing 15000 tonnes of aid and for what? Hamas who control the area and want to blow the hell out of Israel? How can you, how can we condone that? Ridiculous.

[MassiveTruck]

Originally Posted by setanta

Look, I have Israeli relations, with my uncle in law having served in their equivelant of the Navy Seals, and even I can see what a botch up this is. They've been condemned even by their allies and I really don't know how they can talk themselves outta this one. It'll be interesting to speak to my aunt about it!

They have been condemned for retaliating in international waters - they are not condemned for their actions to defend their state and to run checks.

The ships were clearly offered a free run into Israel so they could pass the aid on to the right sources but they (as this whole operation was run by Hamas) wanted to take it to Gaza. How utterly ridiculous.

Would you allow people to just walk into your
home, when you are having problems in your home? Would you? I really doubt it.

Also, I've already spoken to my friends in Gaza about this and they think these idiots coming in on pirate ships were an utter joke.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

Somehow i doubt that.

You can doubt all you want. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by setanta

You can doubt all you want. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Me neither, i smell BS.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

Me neither, i smell BS.

Again, doesn't cost me a thought.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by setanta

Again, doesn't cost me a thought.

Or Our Man Flint

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Personally - sick to death of terrorists - couldn't care less what happens to any of them!

They weren't terrorists though, they were aid workers

[setanta]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

Or Our Man Flint

Seriously, what are you trying to prove here? It's quite amusing to me to be honest with you. Do you want the name and phone number of my uncle so you can have a chat with him? Go about your business you eejit.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by setanta

Seriously, what are you trying to prove here? It's quite amusing to me to be honest with you. Do you want the name and phone number of my uncle so you can have a chat with him? Go about your business you eejit.

If ya pay the phone call.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

They weren't terrorists though, they were aid workers

yeah right...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

yeah right...

you again................Oh Joy

[setanta]

Originally Posted by MojoNixon

If ya pay the phone call.

Again, I'm not bothered about what you believe or don't believe. Conversation over really.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by setanta

Again, I'm not bothered about what you believe or don't believe. Conversation over really.

You clearly are, third time....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by setanta

Yes, they were acting like pirates and the crew had every right to feel aggrieved and hostile.

every right to bludgeon them with iron bars and try and drown and kill them


?

get real

[lime]

Originally Posted by MassiveTruck

Nonsense. Utter nonsense.

UNICEF have nothing to do with this floatilla and neither does any of the major charities either. This was run by Islamic charities who have nothing more than an Islamic interest when most of the people in Gaza and the West Bank, Muslims get by with the aid. Unicef already, alongside the red cross, Amnesty international, The Red Cross have a relationship with Israel to bring in aid and I know this because a number of my muslim, that's muslim, friends are in the gaza strip seeing that aid gets through.


They were bringing 15000 tonnes of aid and for what? Hamas who control the area and want to blow the hell out of Israel? How can you, how can we condone that? Ridiculous.

Where did I say UNICEF had anything to do with the flotilla???

I was commenting on your statement that the only people complaing about the Gaza crisis are charity workers.

You seem to be trying make out that the Gaza citizens are getting all the aid they need through aid that Israel allows.And you know this because your Muslim,yes that's Muslim friends in Gaza tell you so as they are seeing that the aid gets through.Next time would you please ask them if that is so how come 12000 children under 5 die there every year from preventable diseases??

Check UNICEF stats for Gaza.

I would never condone the actions of Hamas in fact I condemn it.
If the point of the blockade is to stop rockets etc reaching Hamas then the blockade is not working is it.