[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Not at all. I'm not stalking the woman as you suggested, I happen to be on a forum that is called This Is Big Brother, discussing a person who was on (oddly enough) Big Brother.

I am indeed taking into account her 'demons'... and note that despite her long history of depression and alcoholism - she still refuses to abstain from binge drinking, which in turn does not help the depression. No one forces her to get plastered and behave like a scutter. She manages to make that choice all on her own.

I'm discussing Denise because SHE was on CBB - not her husband. And this is in the CBB section which discusses housemates predominately.

If alcoholics stayed away from binge drinking, then they wouldn't be alcoholics. And discuss her, that's fine. I just think that sometimes comments made are far too over-board.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'm not a fan of Denise in particular, but the abuse hurled at her gets ridiculous, It almost makes me like her tbh.

I agree that having it hurled at her directly and personally via her own Twitter or other personal webpages is wholly unacceptable and to be honest, very distrubing.

Discussing her however on a forum, is not. It's putting over an opinion on her - it is not hurling abuse AT her.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JH95

If alcoholics stayed away from binge drinking, then they wouldn't be alcoholics. And discuss her, that's fine. I just think that sometimes comments made are far too over-board.

No they would not, but she should not pretend that she is not emotionally disturbed when she clearly is: and clearly has very little control over her life: to the point that she lies and manipulates. That is my view on her.

Yes, I will discuss her without your permission, thus clearly it is fine for me to do so if I wish.

You are entitled to your opinion on what you personally feel may be over-board. As others are, to the contrary.

[fruit_cake]

I often wonder if those that hurl the abuse would do it to her face tbh

[lostalex]

Can't we all just kill each other?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I often wonder if those that hurl the abuse would do it to her face tbh

You should perhaps address that question to those on Twitter who are hurling the abuse at her, if you have Twitter.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

No they would not, but she should not pretend that she is not emotionally disturbed when she clearly is: and clearly has very little control over her life: to the point that she lies and manipulates. That is my view on her.

Yes, I will discuss her without your permission, thus clearly it is fine for me to do so if I wish.

You are entitled to your opinion on what you personally feel may be over-board. As others are, to the contrary.

Please don't try and make out I have/haven't given you permission to talk about Denise. Read my post again if you have to, there is no need to make an issue about something whoch isn't needed. And if she is hiding from her 'true' self, why would that be a bad thing for you. If what you say is right, maybe it's because she doesn't want to face up to what she really is. It isn't called lying, its called convincing yourself. Maby do it on a day-to-day basis. Now, whilst this rant has been fun, Im off to bed as I am knackered out

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by JH95

Please don't try and make out I have/haven't given you permission to talk about Denise. Read my post again if you have to, there is no need to make an issue about something whoch isn't needed. And if she is hiding from her 'true' self, why would that be a bad thing for you. If what you say is right, maybe it's because she doesn't want to face up to what she really is. It isn't called lying, its called convincing yourself. Maby do it on a day-to-day basis. Now, whilst this rant has been fun, Im off to bed as I am knackered out

Did I say it was a bad thing for me? Nope.

Sorry to hear that your rant as you refer to it as, has knackered you out. Sleep well.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

You should perhaps address that question to those on Twitter who are hurling the abuse at her, if you have Twitter.

I wasn't really looking for a direct answer, hence the use of the phrase 'I wonder'.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Did I say it was a bad thing for me? Nope.

Sorry to hear that your rant as you refer to it as, has knackered you out. Sleep well.

Nah its not the rant, just a rather long day

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I wasn't really looking for a direct answer, hence the use of the phrase 'I wonder'.

I don't think I suggested you were seeking a direct answer, hence the use of my words, ''You should perhaps".

Merely a suggestion in response to your own comment, and effort at ongoing and open dialogue, which is the premise of a forum.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I don't think I suggested you were seeking a direct answer, hence the use of my words, ''You should perhaps".

Merely a suggestion in response to your own comment, and effort at ongoing and open dialogue, which is the premise of a forum.

well there you go

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Ok Pyra, I'm not even going there! It's becoming too predictable now. Methinks Jack is right!

Thank you...someone with some sense

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

when the truth lay more that I simply wasn't going to continue in circles - and you and Jack didn't quite like that.

Or the real truth - that you had no way of justifying your points and had essentially been proven wrong. And so you gave up.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Doesn't explain why her boys never showed up though (they were probably hiding at home in shame)

Would you have showed up if your mum kept getting drunk and wapping out her boobs on national TV at every given opportunity!

Originally Posted by Incensed

I really can't believe you've just said that! I suppose it would be ok if the man was older than the woman and he learned to accept the ageing process?

I'm not a Denise fan, but it seems as if it's ok for an older man to sleep with a younger woman, but not the other way round?

I dont believe he said that at all? It would be just as distastful and pathetic if a bloke was doing it. Case in point - Peter Stringfellow...

Originally Posted by JH95

Maybe she didn't fancy mentioning that her marriage had broken apart, because she didnt want 3 million people knowing about something which she herself cannot deal with?

1) Theres not mentioning something, then there is outright lieing about it. She could have easily steered conversations away from the subject, but she sought to bring up her happy marriage at every opportunity. She knew perfectly well the public would hate her if they found out.

2) If what you say is true, pray tell why she has now decided to tell her story in lurid detail to the national press?

The woman is a joke and people who voted for her are even worse imo. If be utterly ashamed if Id been taken in by that old drunken hag.

[Kizzy]

and on that note i can sleep soundly in my bed, safe in the knowledge that there are other sane persons in the world.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Would you have showed up if your mum kept getting drunk and wapping out her boobs on national TV at every given opportunity!





I dont believe he said that at all? It would be just as distastful and pathetic if a bloke was doing it. Case in point - Peter Stringfellow...



1) Theres not mentioning something, then there is outright lieing about it. She could have easily steered conversations away from the subject, but she sought to bring up her happy marriage at every opportunity. She knew perfectly well the public would hate her if they found out.

2) If what you say is true, pray tell why she has now decided to tell her story in lurid detail to the national press?

The woman is a joke and people who voted for her are even worse imo. If be utterly ashamed if Id been taken in by that old drunken hag.

To answer number 2, maybe it was to stop the bullsh*t claims that she was having an affair?

[lostalex]

i think i speak for the entire forum when i say STF.U^. serious;y though,

Denise is a p[sycho alchoholic. end of.

[Wayne-Kerr]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Would you have showed up if your mum kept getting drunk and wapping out her boobs on national TV at every given opportunity!




How do you know they weren't there? Just because they weren't in the interview audience, doesn't mean they weren't there.
2) If what you say is true, pray tell why she has now decided to tell her story in lurid detail to the national press?
Because she might have got over it and would like to make something good (money) from a bad situation?

The woman is a joke and people who voted for her are even worse imo. If be utterly ashamed if Id been taken in by that old drunken hag.
And that's just a bit offensive to people who voted for Denise. Offensive and very bitter sounding.

.....

[Cy Kosis]

She was having an affair ,since April 2011,another affair with another man in her pursuit of recreational sex.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Cy Kosis

She was having an affair ,since April 2011,another affair with another man in her pursuit of recreational sex.

Oh....... she was having affairs long before 2011. Here's an article dated back to May 2010.

Once a scutter.....always a scutter.

TV STAR Denise Welch enjoyed passionate trysts with her lover despite insisting their secret affair was over, we can reveal today.

The Loose Women presenter - who last week claimed in her new autobiography that her relationship with toyboy Steve Murray ended five years ago - met up with him again two months ago behind her husband's back.

We can reveal that ex-Coronation Street star Denise, 51, arranged to meet Thailand-based Steve while on holiday in Bangkok with her actor husband Tim Healy.

She offered to pay for Steve, 41, to book a hotel room near hers before telling Tim, 58, that she was going for a massage while he played golf.
Steve, a former BBC studio carpenter, said: "It felt so good to be back with her again and she told me she loved being with me.
"All our old feelings for each other came rushing back. But funnily enough, she doesn't mention that in her book."

In the new book, Pulling Myself Together, mum-of-two Denise boasts how she rebuilt her marriage after Auf Wiedersehen Pet star Tim discovered her five-month affair with Steve in 2005

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/showbiz...6908-22227895/

[Saph]

Who cares if shes had affair's, YOU SHAG IT AND SHOUT IT DENISE GIRL!

[Me. I Am Salman]

LOOOOL Saph!!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

Who cares if shes had affair's, YOU SHAG IT AND SHOUT IT DENISE GIRL!

LOL.

By any stretch of the imagination: no 53 year old can EVER be called a girl.

she shouts about it alright: if it's not in books, she's on telly pretending she's all distraught.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

Who cares if shes had affair's, YOU SHAG IT AND SHOUT IT DENISE GIRL!

Sadly, there's far too many people invested in the lives of other people that actually fail to step back and realise that actually...those that they are criticising so...well, ridiculously, are the ones that are out having fun, and making the most of their lives living it the way they want, compared to themselves who sit in and complain about that.

I'll never understand the mentality. This obsession with prudishness and being so reserved. And complaining about those who don't...

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i think i speak for the entire forum when i say STF.U^. serious;y though,

Denise is a p[sycho alchoholic. end of.

Im not stupid and I understand text speech... No, I won't ****.