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Old 22-02-2013, 12:57 PM #1
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1254: Magistrate Desmond Nair summarising the defence case (in detail)

1309: Magistrate Desmond Nair is now recapping the evidence of the original investigating officer, Warrant Officer Hilton Botha (in detail)

1328: Magistrate Desmond Nair has now moved on to discuss the history of bail in the Republic of South Africa (in detail)

He don't 'alf go on .....

Now he's banging on about how bloody paragraphs and schedules (sub-section small a) .....

1339: The court adjourns for five minutes.

You'd think this was a trial and he was the hanging judge .....

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We apologise for the delay on the bail decision - the magistrate just loves hearing the sound of his own voice .....
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We MAY get a decision soon, but then again it could be deferred until Monday if the magistrate hasn't completed his pontification .....
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He's been granted bail surprised considering the charge
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1424: Magistrate Desmond Nair said in view of the "totality of the evidence" he concludes Mr Pistorius should be granted bail while he awaits trial for murder.

1442: Magistrate Desmond Nair has set bail conditions - Mr Pistorius must deposit 1m rand (Ł73,823) in cash and guarantees, he must hand over his passport, avoid his home in Pretoria and report to a police station between 07:00 and 13:00 every Monday and Friday.

1449: Mr Pistorius is next due in court on 4 June but his trial may not be for many months. Magistrate Desmond Nair also ordered him to give up all his firearms as a condition of bail.


IMO, there will be a public outcry in SA and he will be far from safe for some time to come.
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1520: The AFP news agency reports that as part of the bail conditions, magistrate Desmond Nair also said Mr Pistorius "shall refrain from using any prohibited substance and or alcohol".
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Are you pleased he has got bail Omah?
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Wow he's been granted bail
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Are you pleased he has got bail Omah?
Certainly not .....

He's a violent, and now desperate man, with a career in ruins and, whatever the charge, a certain prison sentence for murder in the offing.

There's still more to this case than has so far met the eye, e.g. why did Pistorious go for his gun and not what should have been available - a panic button (to call the guards) .....
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This case really is confusing me, why has he been given bail
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This case really is confusing me, why has he been given bail
Izzit cos he is rich and white .....
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pretty shocked he's been given bail
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ANC women's league: 'What is distressing is the reaction of some men in court who jumped up and celebrated ... as if they had won a trophy'.
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ANC women's league: 'What is distressing is the reaction of some men in court who jumped up and celebrated ... as if they had won a trophy'.


Yes is this
OJ again.
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ANC women's league: 'What is distressing is the reaction of some men in court who jumped up and celebrated ... as if they had won a trophy'.
Not following this case too closely but I was a bit dismayed when some friends of his on exiting the court a few days ago were laughing that it has been a good day for the defence, I felt it was totally inappropriate, I think it might even have been the day Reeva was cremated, it just looked wrong. I believe he will not be convicted of this crime, but for me at the moment his story appears to be full of discrepancies.
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if they did that is wrong, though Ive not seen it. I hate guns and I hate gun culture. sadly its a disease in s africa. possibly worse than in america.
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If I woke up in the middle of the night with my gf next to me, but a possible intruder in the house, the first thing I'd do is make sure that I knew exactly where she was, and that she was safe.
 
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If I woke up in the middle of the night with my gf next to me, but a possible intruder in the house, the first thing I'd do is make sure that I knew exactly where she was, and that she was safe.
good point. how did he not notice whether she was next to him in the bed?
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Have they never been in a courtroom?
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Have they never been in a courtroom?
Probably not one where the man who had shot his girlfriend four times was released on bail .....
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1547: The Reuters news agency reports that a car believed to be carrying Oscar Pistorius has left Pretoria magistrates court, pursued by motorcycles.
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the reason hes been given bail are as follows.
1) the police investigator on the prosecution is actually currently being accused of attempted murder himself so is totally discredited already
2) the officer and his team stated incorrectly they found steroids , when it was in fact herbal remedy
3) theyve failed to disprove oscars story, which was he got up in the dark without his leg splints, he crawled to the door and closed curtains in another room, heard noises in bathroom , panicked and demanded to know who was in there. he claimed he felt scared and vulnerable as he didnt have his legs on and shot 4 times.

the main argument now seems to be the trajectory of the bullets....defence says they were fired from an angle low enough to justify oscars story of being near the floor, the prosecution claims the bullets were from too high an angle for that to be possible.

oscar claims he only realised his gf was misisng when he returned to the bedroom and put the lights on

it does sound far fetched, but maybe he will get off the way OJ did due to police corruption and incompetence
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I watched the Magistrate's very detailed explanation of why Bail was being granted and I agree with his decision.
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Whatever the result or truth of this case once the official trial is concluded, all I can say I was very glad I wasn't the one waiting for this Magistrate's decision.
I thought he was never going to stop talking,he certainly made sure he had his moment of fame.
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