[Kizzy]

There have been many older housemates, jim and denise are two examples on either end of a scale.... there are many in between
Neither can be held up as the 'norm'.

[MTVN]

I am the same, I never fail to wake up at 10.30 am no matter what

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I am the same, I never fail to wake up at 10.30 am no matter what

Good one MTVN. except when ill I don't think I have ever been in bed at 10.30am.

I love that post.

[Lee.]

I'd have done exactly the same as Jim with regards to making a noise in the morning. I used to live in a flat and the couple upstairs were inconsiderate arseholes and they'd think nothing of coming home at 3am with a gang if party people, playing their music really loud and dancing on their extensive wooden floors in their stilettos! It have me great pleasure to get up with my little un at 7am and let her run and shout as much as she wanted.. I'd also fling in Guns n Roses greatest hits for good measure.
I'm not a vengeful person but I'm afraid when it comes to losing sleep because of other people's selfishness, they deserve a bit of their own medicine.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I'd have done exactly the same as Jim with regards to making a noise in the morning. I used to live in a flat and the couple upstairs were inconsiderate arseholes and they'd think nothing of coming home at 3am with a gang if party people, playing their music really loud and dancing on their extensive wooden floors in their stilettos! It have me great pleasure to get up with my little un at 7am and let her run and shout as much as she wanted.. I'd also fling in Guns n Roses greatest hits for good measure.
I'm not a vengeful person but I'm afraid when it comes to losing sleep because of other people's selfishness, they deserve a bit of their own medicine.

Agree. I would have done the same in his situation, he was a bit half hearted anyway he should have got up and started screaming.

[AnnieK]

The compromise would surely be that the bedroom is left for those who want to sleep and anyone wanting to party stays in the main room

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The compromise would surely be that the bedroom is left for those who want to sleep and anyone wanting to party stays in the main room

Exactly.. I don't know how anyone can justify disagreeing with this.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Exactly.. I don't know how anyone can justify disagreeing with this.

Yes they have.. Not in this thread maybe and I can't remember who but I've seen the "it's big brother, the bedroom is going to be noisy" argument countless times.
I've seen BBs where eventually they do make this compromise, but it's just not happening this year for some reason.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The compromise would surely be that the bedroom is left for those who want to sleep and anyone wanting to party stays in the main room

..I think to some extent that is what happens though, it's just that after a lively night and so many people, it doesn't really work that people just then stay silent in the bedroom following on from that because it does become an extension of their evening..that's what I've found from numerous 'lively' sleepovers with my own children and I mean when they were grown ups because it only takes one or two people who are less tired for it all to start up again as we see every time in BB...

[Ammi]

..and also tbf, if BB wanted it all to stay in the living areas then they would put some sort of pull out beds in there for the revellers or allow them to sleep on the sofas but they want all of the annoyances it all causes as well...

[Kizzy]

Nobody has disagreed with that lee

[Lee.]

Let's face it, Luisa is purposely trying to wind Jim up. She's made no secret of it.

[MTVN]

But again, it's not exactly unusual or surprising for people to be more tolerant and forgiving towards their friends, who also make an effort to apologise, than towards someone who continuously goes on about how she hates him and revels in winding him up

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by MTVN

But again, it's not exactly unusual or surprising for people to be more tolerant and forgiving towards their friends, who also make an effort to apologise, than towards someone who continuously goes on about how she hates him and revels in winding him up

..yep, I do agree with that..we do all have opinions on people and that's where our perspective comes from, whether we think something was purposefully said in spite or not etc...which is the same for fans etc..we all see the same thing but look at it differently...there is very rarely a definitive right or wrong, just as opinion on a situation...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

But again, it's not exactly unusual or surprising for people to be more tolerant and forgiving towards their friends, who also make an effort to apologise, than towards someone who continuously goes on about how she hates him and revels in winding him up

Jim is a hypocrite and dappy is a people pleaser, as said the whole house were enjoying themselves... except jim, which prompted ben to start this thread entitled 'Fun sponge jim'.

[Munchkins]

The fact is Jim has every right to expect that people should accomodate his needs, but not when its virtually the whole house against him on this one night where they were all having fun, if it was just Luisa and Dappy etc being drunken messes then yes Jim has a point, but when it was one night where the house where all agreed, i think Jim should have just loosened up forr once

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

The fact is Jim has every right to expect that people should accomodate his needs, but not when its virtually the whole house against him on this one night where they were all having fun, if it was just Luisa and Dappy etc being drunken messes then yes Jim has a point, but when it was one night where the house where all agreed, i think Jim should have just loosened up forr once

But Jim didn't actually tell any of them to be quiet, he wanted to sleep so went from the bedroom, to the tree house, to indoors & it was Dappy that stirred the **** & told them all that Jim wanted them all to be quiet now as he wants to get to sleep, he was quite happy to simply wait til they had gone to slep before he went into the bedroom... He didn't make a fuss about it at all...

[Munchkins]

And when they went to bed its not like Luisa was going to be carrying on forever lol, she was clearly going to go to sleep eventually

[joeysteele]

You know what, I have been reading through this thread last night and again today,the conclusion I have further reached is in fact that Jim's grumpiness actually adds greatly to the entertainment value of the house.
If all that was happening was Luisa and Dappy frolicking about and everyone else ignoring that,whether they approve or not.
If Luisa was making a noise in the bedroom and getting little or no reaction from anyone.
Then that would be as tedious to watch, in my view,as just about the love triangle was.

However when Jim's grumpiness and moaning takes place, that actually increases tenfold the entertainment value of the programme and I think Jack tried to touch on that last night in his posts.
One thing is for sure, if Jim wasn't complaining and grumpy at times then not much would be being talked about on here as to what happens at night like as did last night.

This is for me, one the best CBB's there has been and Jim,in my opinion, has a really big part that he has played so far in making it that too.

[Slevin]

lol @ Jim coming out for the party then going to bed. moans every time music comes on. he really is a miserable bastard. of course he really didnt go to bed. even Liz was bobbing her head getting into it. i actually agree with Sam (forgot she was there) when he was telling Luisa to grow up but he was laying by the door like a baby. good stuff from Jim but kettle black. if i was Jim and really wanted to annoy people when i woke up i wouldnt of put in a half assed effort and probably screamed and do other things myself. guess some would call that Jim's revenge. i call it a failure since it was laughed off. please try harder next time Jim. when he was in the kitchen throwing a fit i was lmao.

[joeysteele]

Actually he came out later and sat with Liz.
Then although he clearly hates the song, when they were playing 'I'm in the mood for dancing',(for the life of me I saw no reason to butter up Linda and play that anyway), Jim couldn't help himself also nodding his head a bit and singing along for a line or 2 while sitting with Liz at the table.

I know a lot of people like Jim who clear off when the party starts and dancing takes place then they come back later when things have quietened down a bit.

Jim doesn't, clearly, like most of the music that gets played in the house so if he genuinely doesn't like the music why on earth should he stay there.
He went off into the bedroom and didn't spoil anyone elses enjoyment.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Actually he came out later and sat with Liz.
Then although he clearly hates the song, when they were playing 'I'm in the mood for dancing',(for the life of me I saw no reason to butter up Linda and play that anyway), Jim couldn't help himself also nodding his head a bit and singing along for a line or 2 while sitting with Liz at the table.

I know a lot of people like Jim who clear off when the party starts and dancing takes place then they come back later when things have quietened down a bit.

Jim doesn't, clearly, like most of the music that gets played in the house so if he genuinely doesn't like the music why on earth should he stay there.
He went off into the bedroom and didn't spoil anyone elses enjoyment.

But Joey, that isn't what happened. After the task when they went over to the table of food that BB had provided for them, he took a look at the table and said in disgust "I'm going to bed" and walked off. There WAS no dancing or partying at that time. I thought that was a bit rude when BB had given them a nice spread. Watch it back and you'll see.
It's no problem if he doesn't enjoy dancing pr partying - but as far as I see it he doesn't want anyone else to enjoy it either.

The Nolan song 'I'm in the mood for dancing' being played into the bedroom was aimed at Jim. That was the whole point of it. BB has a wicked sense of humour!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

But Joey, that isn't what happened. After the task when they went over to the table of food that BB had provided for them, he took a look at the table and said in disgust "I'm going to bed" and walked off. There WAS no dancing or partying at that time. I thought that was a bit rude when BB had given them a nice spread. Watch it back and you'll see.
It's no problem if he doesn't enjoy dancing pr partying - but as far as I see it he doesn't want anyone else to enjoy it either.

The Nolan song 'I'm in the mood for dancing' being played into the bedroom was aimed at Jim. That was the whole point of it. BB has a wicked sense of humour!

Hi jet,
yes I did see that, he clearly may have also thought though, I know how this is going to end up, music, screaming and partying.
He clearly doesn't like that and therefore avoided getting involved in it right from the start.

As it progressed it likely turned out not to be as bad as he had thought it would so he returned.
He prefers I think anyway, to sit in a small group or with one other,that has been clear since the start of the series and in fact all we saw of him really was him with Liz, chatting when the others had moved elsewhere.

Personally, I cannot see any wrong in that at all so have another take on the proceedings as I have outlined above.

I also have to say, wouldn't want to be in a room where Nolans records,(I won't say music),was playing, that would certainly be my cue to get some air or go to the toilet for sure.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Hi jet,
yes I did see that, he clearly may have also thought though, I know how this is going to end up, music, screaming and partying.
He clearly doesn't like that and therefore avoided getting involved in it right from the start.

As it progressed it likely turned out not to be as bad as he had thought it would so he returned.
He prefers I think anyway, to sit in a small group or with one other,that has been clear since the start of the series and in fact all we saw of him really was him with Liz, chatting when the others had moved elsewhere.

Personally, I cannot see any wrong in that at all so have another take on the proceedings as I have outlined above.

I also have to say, wouldn't want to be in a room where Nolans records,(I won't say music),was playing, that would certainly be my cue to get some air or go to the toilet for sure.

I think that's stretching it. Sitting down to eat is hardly partying. He could have had something to eat and then gone to bed. Or he could simply have said "I'm not hungry and I'm tired, I'll off to bed now, enjoy yourselves" instead of walking off like that! It was rude and uncalled for.

I don't know what you see in the miserable old git. Our Dan was heaps nicer and a lot more fun.

[Slevin]

i know he came out and sat with Liz. he didnt go to bed.