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Old 04-03-2014, 02:19 PM #151
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Well yes they are doing for lent because that's what they choose to do


Don't umm at me joz... if you don't want to eat sweets or whatever and you're not religious your on a diet, not taking part in any lenten sacrifice.
See Kates post below for an example.





I never called anyone a troll Kizzy I said I see some posts that could be described as trolling. Different things. And there is also a difference between questioning a person beliefs and outright mocking them.
Yes you did, and you've done it to me in the past too. It was very upsetting actually.
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Yes you did, and you've done it to me in the past too. It was very upsetting actually.
Stop lying please it's very upsetting and since you completely ignored the other points in my post I will assume it was all a plan to make this discussion about you.

Here this might make you feel better
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Stop lying please it's very upsetting and since you completely ignored the other points in my post I will assume it was all a plan to make this discussion about you.

Here this might make you feel better
Not to highlight the fact you insulted a member? and I'm not lying thankyou.
Anyway I don't want to disrupt kates thread so I'll leave it there.
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Not to highlight the fact you insulted a member? and I'm not lying thankyou.
Anyway I don't want to disrupt kates thread so I'll leave it there.
I never insulted a member Kizzy but do keep trying..
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Every religion has a list of so called fullfilled prophecies as its part of the shtick. To date none have ever cut the mustard, unless you have a specific one that you can illustrate?
you wrote this two minutes after I posted. you didn't even bother to research which just proves what I said earlier about you being ignorant of information. in response to this post, fulfilled predictions are just one factor of my belief of its authenticity. The Qur'an is the direct word of God unlike other religious books which have been altered throughout history by man. The Qur'an is written in such a way that no one in the past has been able to produce just ten surahs like it, and the Qur'an actually challenges people to do so. It has no contradictions or mistakes whatsoever. etc etc etc

I'm got going to reply to you anymore as a) you're clearly not taking any of my posts into account b) you're clearly just trying to provoke people c) I'm not a scholar who knows everything. so don't bother quoting this

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you wrote this two minutes after I posted. you didn't even bother to research which just proves what I said earlier about you being ignorant of information. in response to this post, fulfilled predictions are just one factor of my belief of its authenticity. The Qur'an is the direct word of God unlike other religious books which have been altered throughout history by man. The Qur'an is written in such a way that no one in the past has been able to produce just ten surahs like it, and the Qur'an actually challenges people to do so. It has no contradictions or mistakes whatsoever. etc etc etc

I'm got going to reply to you anymore as a) you're clearly not taking any of my posts into account b) you're clearly just trying to provoke people. so don't bother quoting this
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All alleged contradictions and errors have been cleared up and explained by scholars, the verses are usually misunderstood. Don't bring anything up with me because as I said I'm not a scholar who's well educated on these things

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All alleged contradictions and errors have been cleared up and explained by scholars, the verses are usually misunderstood. Don't bring anything up with me because as I said I'm not a scholar
You base your whole life on a book that you say is without error, yet you have no interest in either finding out about the alleged errors, or understanding why they aren't errors at all?

Hey, if that's good for you then totally cool, but I don't get that. Have you actually read it from cover to cover and asked yourself any questions?

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You base your whole life on a book that you say is without error, yet you have no interest in either finding out about the alleged errors, or understanding why they aren't errors at all?

Hey, if that's good for you then totally cool, but I don't get that. Have you actually read it from cover to cover and asked yourself any questions?
Of course I have every intention to study islam in more depth when I'm older. Muslims are encouraged to do so
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Of course I have every intention to study islam in more depth when I'm older. Muslims are encouraged to do so
I couldn't follow a religion unless I understood what I'm supposed to be following, before I actually start following it.

I find that totally insane, but it's your life.
 
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It always comes back to faith. If you have it, you can't explain it. If you don't have it, you can't understand it.
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That's the top and tail of it Livia.
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I won't be giving up anything as I am an atheist..

Is giving something up for Lent a catholic practice? Or do Protestants do it too?
My late Mother in law ( )Was a strict Catholic, and always gave stuff up for Lent, but shes the only person Ive ever known who does it, Im a staunch atheist so wouldnt dream of doing it ,Religion is the cause of too much evil stuff in this world and has a lot to answer for IMO
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It always comes back to faith. If you have it, you can't explain it. If you don't have it, you can't understand it.

You would be as well writing "god works in mysterious ways"
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My late Mother in law ( )Was a strict Catholic, and always gave stuff up for Lent, but shes the only person Ive ever known who does it, Im a staunch atheist so wouldnt dream of doing it ,Religion is the cause of too much evil stuff in this world and has a lot to answer for IMO
I don't think it's religion at fault though Chuff,I believe it's the human race.
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you wrote this two minutes after I posted. you didn't even bother to research which just proves what I said earlier about you being ignorant of information. in response to this post, fulfilled predictions are just one factor of my belief of its authenticity. The Qur'an is the direct word of God unlike other religious books which have been altered throughout history by man. The Qur'an is written in such a way that no one in the past has been able to produce just ten surahs like it, and the Qur'an actually challenges people to do so. It has no contradictions or mistakes whatsoever. etc etc etc

I'm got going to reply to you anymore as a) you're clearly not taking any of my posts into account b) you're clearly just trying to provoke people c) I'm not a scholar who knows everything. so don't bother quoting this
Funnily enough I did not go and research your unfounded claims via google as I rather hoped that you would explain them as you made them and its a forum an all.

But as you say, you are not really sure what its all about
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Hey... my Muslim friend has a right to his faith. No one else has to believe it.
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Every chance, but behind most of the worlds wrongs is religion in one way or another,and the idiots who do evil in the name of their God

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I couldn't follow a religion unless I understood what I'm supposed to be following, before I actually start following it.

I find that totally insane, but it's your life.
I do though? I know a great deal. It's just there's always more you can learn.
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Funnily enough I did not go and research your unfounded claims via google as I rather hoped that you would explain them as you made them and its a forum an all.

But as you say, you are not really sure what its all about
The trolling is getting more and more tedious and desperate. I remember the photo you had on your Catweazel profile, you're literally an OAP.. is this really what you do with your time? How sad.
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