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Originally Posted by Livia

This still running, eh? Oh well... this post will push my count up by one.

Oh I'll have another one as well then

[Kizzy]

Some get all territorial on here.. 'who ARE they, they only have 5000 posts! :glorang:'
So getting counted for countless threads about the latest sassy mare is a bit pointless.
I say get rid of the post count altogether.

[Ammi]

..I don't think I've ever heard anyone say..who are they, they only have so many post counts, though...

I'd rather consistency in approach over some bollocks little gimmick.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I don't think I've ever heard anyone say..who are they, they only have so many post counts, though...

They actually have though, I have dealt with a few posts like that myself.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

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People having a ****ing paddy and 'WE WANT IT WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IT?!' like spoilt brats, deary me.

I agree, I wasn't getting all angry or annoyed in the OP, I was just asking why they don't count (cos I genuinely didn't know), and then all this exploded

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I don't think I've ever heard anyone say..who are they, they only have so many post counts, though...

I've seen it on a lot of other forums though, people look at a new member who has 2 posts and immediately say "OH, YOUR A TROLL, I'LL JUST IGNORE YOUR OPINIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY FAKE".

[Ammi]

..HAYDEN.....pfft causing all this trouble with your 3000 and something post counts....it is something that quite a few people aren't sure of though, I remember when I noticed a new member only having one post and I knew they had made more and then realised it was because they had been in chat and games mostly...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Hayden

I've seen it on a lot of other forums though, people look at a new member who has 2 posts and immediately say "OH, YOUR A TROLL, I'LL JUST IGNORE YOUR OPINIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY FAKE".

..ahh ok, I've never seen anyone saying that because of a post count reason but I have seen new members be insulted because they were being a bit rude or aggressive..I know on other forums I'm on, post counts are noticed more because you can only make threads when you have a minimum post count...(I can't remember how many it is though..)...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I don't think I've ever heard anyone say..who are they, they only have so many post counts, though...

When new people come on here we don't need to see a post count to know they're new. And they don't need to see a post count to know some of us know each other and have been around longer. What I do see sometimes is someone new accusing someone of being superior because they have a higher post count, usually when the new person is here specifically to tell us where we've been going wrong all this time. We've all been new... personally, post counts just pointed out to me who was a reg. Nothing more. Generally I think most regs are welcoming to new people who aren't acting like arses.

Post counts don't count in Chat and Games. That's the way it is. I personally can't understand why not because no one can say the rest of the forum is so much worthier and that utter tosh never gets posted anywhere other than Chat and Games. Also, in off-season, Chat and Games pretty much keeps this place going so to write it off as not worthy of being counted sounds ridiculous to me. However, it has been decided that's the way it is and I'm happy to go with that.

What worries me more is that there is no way to appeal. Because it was abused it was removed for everyone. The mods to a thankless job, but the members keep this place walking and for there to be no way for a member to appeal a decision in a adult way defies my understanding.

[Josy]

People can and do use the private message function to appeal, and also if they reply to the TiBB Staff message that gives them the infractions then either myself, James or Vicky receives those through email and we post it in the admin forum to discuss it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

People can and do use the private message function to appeal, and also if they reply to the TiBB Staff message that gives them the infractions then either myself, James or Vicky receives those through email and we post it in the admin forum to discuss it.

People don't always get a reply when they PM. It's not consistent.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Livia

People don't always get a reply when they PM. It's not consistent.

I think that would be a very rare occurrence and if it does happen then they can send a pm to a different mod or admin.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Livia

When new people come on here we don't need to see a post count to know they're new. And they don't need to see a post count to know some of us know each other and have been around longer. What I do see sometimes is someone new accusing someone of being superior because they have a higher post count, usually when the new person is here specifically to tell us where we've been going wrong all this time. We've all been new... personally, post counts just pointed out to me who was a reg. Nothing more. Generally I think most regs are welcoming to new people who aren't acting like arses.

Post counts don't count in Chat and Games. That's the way it is. I personally can't understand why not because no one can say the rest of the forum is so much worthier and that utter tosh never gets posted anywhere other than Chat and Games. Also, in off-season, Chat and Games pretty much keeps this place going so to write it off as not worthy of being counted sounds ridiculous to me. However, it has been decided that's the way it is and I'm happy to go with that.

What worries me more is that there is no way to appeal. Because it was abused it was removed for everyone. The mods to a thankless job, but the members keep this place walking and for there to be no way for a member to appeal a decision in a adult way defies my understanding.

..yeah that was my thought that people can fairly much see who posts regularly and that they seem to know each other so I don't think that a high post count has any effect of being intimidating in any way...and I also agree that it's frustrating not to have a proper appeal section or a section where you can discuss things that you may want to..maybe not exactly like before if that didn't work so well but a 'private' room or something..

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Josy

I think that would be a very rare occurrence and if it does happen then they can send a pm to a different mod or admin.

Don't want to drag this out to the death Josy, and this isn't at all personal to you, but there have been occasions when I've PMed and never had a reply. And I know this has happened to others too. I don't want to go into specifics and create an ongoing drama out of it, but in future, and in the absence of a proper appeals process, if I receive no reply to a question I will certainly do as you advise.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Don't want to drag this out to the death Josy, and this isn't at all personal to you, but there have been occasions when I've PMed and never had a reply. And I know this has happened to others too. I don't want to go into specifics and create an ongoing drama out of it, but in future, and in the absence of a proper appeals process, if I receive no reply to a question I will certainly do as you advise.

Yeah I don't want to keep taking this thread off track but...

Fair enough point, I wasn't aware that there were a lot of pm's going unanswered and if it is about your personal infraction, warning etc then yeah I would advise contacting another mod or admin about it..

If though any messages are sent that are about things that don't concern you (I don't mean you here Livia just in general) then you may not get a reply because other members bans and infractions are no one elses business and some members do send messages about that when they should know by now we don't discuss things like that with them.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

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People having a ****ing paddy and 'WE WANT IT WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IT?!' like spoilt brats, deary me.

You just quoted my post so I'm sure you're talking about me. Im a spoilt brat just because I want 1 thing implemented? Get real.

[Livia]

Yes, I get that Josy. Maybe a standard message just saying that the point in question doesn't concern the enquirer and a conversation will not be forthcoming might be better, and it might go some way to stop people trying that route.

Anyhoo, thanks... and this conversation has raised my post count by four! :-)

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by L

It happens all the time. How many times have you seen a relatively new member having their post picked to shreds by someone with a high post count?

Plenty of people have said it is intimidating being new on TiBB. Why do you think that is.

Originally Posted by Hayden

I've seen it on a lot of other forums though, people look at a new member who has 2 posts and immediately say "OH, YOUR A TROLL, I'LL JUST IGNORE YOUR OPINIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY FAKE".

that's nothing to do with post counts..

people blaming post counts for dividing members yeah it's nothing to do with the existence of cliques or the fact that the person being targeted isn't a regular. removing post count won't change ANYTHING. cliques and 'regulars' will still remain

a music forum I mostly lurk has a function for members to hide their join dates/post counts and most of the regulars do, but there's still cliquey behaviour

[Marsh.]

So Chat and Games doesn't count because it's mostly masses of posts of crap/gifs, contributing to games etc???

Are you trying to say every post in every other forum is a well contracted/meaningful thought? Most of that is "Oooh we got some shade" gifs and constant diva/gorilla with a breathing tube/pop bitches gifs.

[Gstar]

Originally Posted by Josy

People can and do use the private message function to appeal, and also if they reply to the TiBB Staff message that gives them the infractions then either myself, James or Vicky receives those through email and we post it in the admin forum to discuss it.

I always reply with "****** off" to those messages

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Germyle

I always reply with "****** off" to those messages

Well you might not want to do that or you will end up banned

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

So Chat and Games doesn't count because it's mostly masses of posts of crap/gifs, contributing to games etc???

Are you trying to say every post in every other forum is a well contracted/meaningful thought? Most of that is "Oooh we got some shade" gifs and constant diva/gorilla with a breathing tube/pop bitches gifs.

chat and games exists solely for that kind of thing, so it shouldn't count.

all the other forums exist for constructive or meaningful discussion, but of course it won't be like that 100% of the time

god there's not even a problem just leave it how it ******ing is

[Gstar]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well you might not want to do that or you will end up banned

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Salman!

chat and games exists solely for that kind of thing, so it shouldn't count.

all the other forums exist for constructive or meaningful discussion, but of course it won't be like that 100% of the time

god there's not even a problem just leave it how it ******ing is

I never said there was any problem so wind your neck in and mind your language sally.