[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Don't worry Liam,Ashleigh could crush a kitten and it would be excused as the right thing to do,by some people,pfft,

She wants to give some of the prize money to poor kittens

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jet

She's hated because her maturity, intelligence, self - awareness and self - respect shows up Helen's opposite characteristics in full technicolor. The stark contrast is hard to take.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Sure. But if someone tells you to bore off or go "**** yourself", I defy you not to end up at the very least discussing that person negatively with someone who you are friends with.

I probably would yeah, but i pride myself on never saying something behind someone's back, that i wouldn't say to their face, i never have and never will

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by mizzmee

I don't think she's hated but here is my theory about why some people find it hard to connect with her.
She never played the victim. She could have but didn't. She could have broken down in tears over the bullying she received from a woman nearly 10 years older than her but instead she stood up for herself, gave as good as she got and never felt sorry for herself.
She could have justifiably cried her eyes out on many occasions but instead she chose to vent.
She is very pretty and cant hhelp that so because she is also a tough cookie people don't feel she has been bullied and so lack a connection for her.

Just as i thought i was starting to sympathize with Ashleigh supporters

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by JayBlaze

Yep all ladies want her acne

Another vote for Ashleigh to win

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I probably would yeah, but i pride myself on never saying something behind someone's back, that i wouldn't say to their face, i never have and never will

I don't believe there's a single human being in the world that could live up to that. Especially not when they're being filmed 24/7 and living together the whole time.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by adamski94

If she didnt agree in it she would of said no

I'm a veggie and adore animals so vote for me to win

[mizzmee]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Just as i thought i was starting to sympathize with Ashleigh supporters

Please do expand. I never said I was a supporter and merely offered an opinion. But do please expand on what was so bad about my opinion?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

I don't believe there's a single human being in the world that could live up to that. Especially not when they're being filmed 24/7 and living together the whole time.

well in that case why is it scorned on when Helen does it?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by mizzmee

Please do expand. I never said I was a supporter and merely offered an opinion. But do please expand on what was so bad about my opinion?

Well for a start, Ashleigh was never bullied, people got angry and shouted at her for things she had said and did, so justifiable really as to why people got angry.
You're also implying that the way she looks is also a factor of people not liking her, which is ridiculous, i mean, i'm a guy, why would i not like her because of the way she looks? ive always wanted to be blonde, but that's a bit of a reach as to why i dislike the brat

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

I don't believe there's a single human being in the world that could live up to that. Especially not when they're being filmed 24/7 and living together the whole time.

That's what pushes hm's to their limits.

In real life you can walk away, ignore and avoid horrible, nasty people.

You can't do that in the house. So our reactions can't be compared to the hm's.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Yes, and it may be legitimate for someone to have a problem with you, if that entails you behaving like Helen.

I think there are a lot of people who are slating Helen that have been far more aggressive and nasty than Helen,and most of them are not Helen fans ,go take a good look,then stand back and say the comments are any better than Helen herself.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

If i went out early for being myself and standing up for myself and what i believe in then i'd walk out with my head held high because i know id have done myself and my family proud.
At the end of the day, it might be a game show to win money and popularity, but i wouldn't be changing my morals and the way i've been brought up for anyone and if people don't like that, then there's nothing i could do about it

Yes not everyone has to run with the herd,be an individual,

[LukeB]

Helen if ashleigh wins


Ashleigh if helen wins

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think there are a lot of people who are slating Helen that have been far more aggressive and nasty than Helen,and most of them are not Helen fans ,go take a good look,then stand back and say the comments are any better than Helen herself.

Has anyone got into a person's face and screamed abuse in it in a threatening manner like Helen did to Matthew?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LukeB

its against rules to discuss fans

I'm on about fans in general,and how else can that scenario be described and I never insulted anyone but carry on telling tales

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Has anyone got into a person's face and screamed abuse in it in a threatening manner like Helen did to Matthew?

Technically she wasn't screaming..

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Has anyone got into a person's face and screamed abuse in it in a threatening manner like Helen did to Matthew?

Well obviously they cant,we are behind a computer screen actually yes some have been very aggressive and nasty,me included sometimes.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Technically she wasn't screaming..

Is there a technical measure for screaming?

[Kizzy]

I'm stunned that some get so horrified about name calling for instance when it comes to ashleigh, helen has been called '*****' 'slag' 'slut' 'ugly' 'vile' 'tramp' for 2 months solid.
That annoys me,I dislike double standards.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Is there a technical measure for screaming?

Yes I think there is

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Is there a technical measure for screaming?

Well.. yeah, a voice raised above a normal level constitutes screaming, if you watch it back, her voice wasn't raised

[LukeB]

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm stunned that some get so horrified about name calling for instance when it comes to ashleigh, helen has been called '*****' 'slag' 'slut' 'ugly' 'vile' 'tramp' for 2 months solid.
That annoys me,I dislike double standards.

Pour that tea

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm stunned that some get so horrified about name calling for instance when it comes to ashleigh, helen has been called '*****' 'slag' 'slut' 'ugly' 'vile' 'tramp' for 2 months solid.
That annoys me,I dislike double standards.

Scold everyone with that tea.