[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

How many Ashleigh fans on here have "Princess Ashleigh" in their "sig" ?

I wouldn't say that means they think she's angelic and princess like.
How many Ashleigh fans don't have "Princess Ashleigh" in their sig?

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I wouldn't say that means they think she's angelic and princess like.
How many Ashleigh fans don't have "Princess Ashleigh" in their sig?

Why would you call someone "princess" unless you are

a) insinuating they are princess like or
b) being ironic

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Ashleigh is hardly Mother Theresa herself.

Yet again this is a thread about Helen why do you feel the need to bring Ashleigh in?

[susie q]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

I get fed up with hearing people play the bully card. By the reckoning on here, if you have an opinion about someone and have the audacity to voice your opinion openly then you are a bully.. in which case, the house is full of bullies.. as is this forum.

Time to put your adult pants on people.. Helen is not a bully. she is HONEST.

So you would be happy to share a house with her then?

[susie q]

You do not have to hit someone to be a bully. Verbal abuse and intimidation leave longer lasting scars than violence, at least this is what many people who have been in violent relationships say.
If Helen wins it would send out completely the wrong message, and for me it would be the time to end Big Brother.

[Tarryn]

I don't think Helen is a bully, I just think she is a horrible person.
No matter what you say to her she is never happy.
Always sees the worst in people but can see no wrong in herself.
I just don't understand why anyone would want a person like that to win the show & the money.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kefln

Another point about Helen and her "honesty":

Last night in the DR she had this to say about Ashleigh:
"She's so much more rude than me, she speaks to her friends like ****"

Here is an example of Helen speaking her mind:
‘Oh for ****** sake, bore the ****** off! Bore off, bore off! It’s a question. You’re a very bitter, nasty back stabbing little b******d. You’ve completely transformed, you turned into a p*s*y, the other night and you let Toya take your ******ing back lash...******ing p*ssy, match up to your ******ing description you ******ing weed’.

Ashleigh ruder than that? I don't think so.

And how does Helen know how Ashleigh talks to her friends? Or could it be that she's making things up?

Honest Helen? Bending the truth? How could it be?

Ashleigh threatened to put her best fwend in the house through a mirror the other day

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ashleigh threatened to put her best fwend in the house through a mirror the other day

Well she said that she felt like it. Whats your point?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by kefln

Well she said that she felt like it. Whats your point?

Incorrect, she said 'I'm going to smash his head into a ****ing mirror in a minute' not that she wanted to, that she was going to.

[Marsh.]

But no warning for Miss Perfect.

Everything Helen says is literal apparently.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Incorrect, she said 'I'm going to smash his head into a ****ing mirror in a minute' not that she wanted to, that she was going to.

Actually what she said was: "I feel like I'm going to bash Christophers head off a mirror". He called her immature, she told him to ****** off, and she said something immature. And it what? Proves that she has a temper during an argument?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by kefln

Actually what she said was: "I feel like I'm going to bash Christophers head off a mirror". He called her immature, she told him to ****** off, and she said something immature. And it what? Proves that she has a temper during an argument?

I think there might be a case of selective hearing going around.. be definitely didn't say she felt like it, she said she was going to.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kefln

Well she said that she felt like it. Whats your point?

My point if it really needs driving home is they were both sounding off... Except it was to her 'friend' and they WEREN'T arguing, she just bawled him out as she was 'tired'.

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by susie q

So you would be happy to share a house with her then?

I would be very happy to share a house with Helen. I like people who are up front and say it as it is. At least you know where you stand with that.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I think there might be a case of selective hearing going around.. be definitely didn't say she felt like it, she said she was going to.

How can quoting a person be called selective hearing? Especially in a post where I said that she was being immature?

Selective reading perhaps?

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

My point if it really needs driving home is they were both sounding off... Except it was to her 'friend' and they WEREN'T arguing, she just bawled him out as she was 'tired'.

They had a fight. They made up. Mountain, mole hill, lets introduce you...

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by susie q

You do not have to hit someone to be a bully. Verbal abuse and intimidation leave longer lasting scars than violence, at least this is what many people who have been in violent relationships say.
If Helen wins it would send out completely the wrong message, and for me it would be the time to end Big Brother.

Well firstly may I remind you, you do have an "off" button and are not forced to watch BB if you don't like it.
Mental abuse does leave longer lasting scars than violence, but who exactly has Helen intimidated? Who has she verbally abused? What message would Helen winning send out?

[susie q]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

Well firstly may I remind you, you do have an "off" button and are not forced to watch BB if you don't like it.
Mental abuse does leave longer lasting scars than violence, but who exactly has Helen intimidated? Who has she verbally abused? What message would Helen winning send out?

Firstly I do not need reminding that I have an off button, I located it a good few years ago. As for Helen she has said abusive things to just about all the housemates including her friends, eg Jale "slug" Kimberley "tramp".
I appreciate that some people may find that entertaining but I dont, and I am as entitled as anyone to state my opinion with out having to put up with the heavy duty sarcasm, which by the way really is the "lowest form of wit"
If she wins that will mean people (yourself perhaps) who engage in vile, aggressive ways of speaking will think it is okay to do so, and even be rewarded for it.

[mrflibble]

One of the many reasons I hate Helen is because she is the ultimate personification of a school bully who hasn't grown up. I do wonder sometimes if Helen fans have ever been bullied. Helen reminds me of the girl who punched me in the stomach because I was fat (I was 8), the girl in high school who knocked my books off my desk whenever she walked past, the girl who would come up to me in front of everyone and call me 'big nose' or some other kind of shallow remark and then go off and laugh with her friends, leaving me sitting there alone with everyone staring and laughing. I was lucky in that I couldn't have cared less about what these people were saying because I don't have any respect for people like that and when I kept standing up to them (eg, 'you're fat' 'I know' *bully is confused*) and not giving them a reaction they eventually stopped. But I hated the attention and the isolation caused (partly from the bully and partly from me just feeling uncomfortable around everyone) and I know that these people are why I still feel uncomfortable when I leave the house and if I hear people laughing I think they're laughing at me. And I can't imagine what it would be like for people who would take their comments and actions to heart. And to me, Helen is one of those people who makes everyone's life a living hell. That's who I see.

And I wouldn't want anyone who has caused that much misery in someone's life to win something that re-affirms they are in the right. The only thing that Helen deserves to win is the ability to look at herself for who and what she is, not what she thinks she is, and to make positive changes in her life. Winning BB will not allow that.

[Withano]

Didn't you know, controversy is super entertaining. Being a nice, well mannered human means **** all when an aggressive **** is filling airtime with arguments.

Big Brother fans are the main reason why Big Brother is failing.

[ruiphillips]

The people who stan for Helen used to stan for Toya.

That's all....

[CaudleHalbard]

Who's Stan?

[Forgetmenot]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Youtube video

A nasty horrible person who has received multiple warnings for bullying and aggressive behaviour.

The reason why has been said on here over and over and over! Helen is REAL Helenis honest..people like that.she is not perfect, none of them are, but what you see is what you get. She is painfully sensitive and very kind hearted.say no more

[tanussa]

Originally Posted by Achilles

The ex housemates who dislike Ashleigh are the ones who were part of Helen's nasty gang. The ex housemates who like Ashleigh are the ones who hated Helen's nasty gang.
Ashleigh has been against Helen and her nasty gang throughout the show. Obviously she will be hated for this and she will be insulted and called vile names because she is against Helen. I don't support the nasty gang and their disgusting leader Helen.

you are so infatuated with ashleigh, we can try and try again til we are blue in the face, you will never accept the truth, how bitter and nasty she really is, have you never seen the nasty looks she gives people with those horrible narrowed eyes. at least the people who prefer helen accept that she has bad points, you paint ashleigh as a saint

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by tanussa

you are so infatuated with ashleigh, we can try and try again til we are blue in the face, you will never accept the truth, how bitter and nasty she really is, have you never seen the nasty looks she gives people with those horrible narrowed eyes. at least the people who prefer helen accept that she has bad points, you paint ashleigh as a saint

Bullying should never be accepted and definitely not supported. Ashleigh doesn't like Helen because Helen is nasty and a bully. Justified.