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Cherie · 10-12-2015, 11:49 AM

Keeping him across the pond enables him to make outrageous comments about London and the UK and let's him wallow in his ignorance, invite him here and provide counter argument to his comments would be far more productive IMO rather than sweeping him under the carpet

Kizzy · 10-12-2015, 12:00 AM

What rot, if you are inciting racial hatred it will be addressed ( unless you are called Trump) , starting a petition is not doing that is it?

the truth · 10-12-2015, 03:34 AM

the west should and the ruskies and the entire free world should unite to wipe this out, period.

kirklancaster · 10-12-2015, 07:19 AM

What must Americans REALLY think of this nutjob petition to 'ban' an American billionaire for having American interests at heart - no matter how misguided - when WE have Jeremy Corbyn as the Leader of HM Labour Party?

The joke is well and truly on us.

Northern Monkey · 10-12-2015, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

What must Americans REALLY think of this nutjob petition to 'ban' an American billionaire for having American interests at heart - no matter how misguided - when have Jeremy Corbyn as the Leader of HM Labour Party?

The joke is well and truly on us.

I know.It's tragic.Especially if they've read some of the disgusting comments his friends at the despicable 'Stop The War' coalition have written and then taken down because they knew it was wrong.Comments which totally legitimise Camerons "Terrorist sympathisers" claim.

kirklancaster · 10-12-2015, 08:45 AM

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I know.It's tragic.Especially if they've read some of the disgusting comments his friends at the despicable 'Stop The War' coalition have written and then taken down because they knew it was wrong.Comments which totally legitimise Camerons "Terrorist sympathisers" claim.

YOU know the TRUTH.
I know the TRUTH.
The MAJORITY of UK citizens know the TRUTH.

But we can all continue TELLING the TRUTH until Armageddon, but the SELF-BLIND will not SEE, the SELF-DEAF will not LISTEN, and the SELF-DUMB.... are, well... Just DUMB.

As for 'Stop The War Coalition' - as MTVN intimated, it is nothing more than a nest of treacherous vipers.

Cherie · 10-12-2015, 09:04 AM

It's too easy to sign a petition online, if people had to fill out a form and buy a stamp to post it I predict this petition would hardly have got off the ground, we gave Nick Griffin a platform and Abu Hamza, we should welcome him with open arms and throw a reception for him in Tower Hamlets or Bradford.

bots · 10-12-2015, 11:53 AM

if signing a petition makes people feel empowered, I would actively encourage it. I've never heard of an instance where signing a petition did anyone any direct harm

Kizzy · 10-12-2015, 01:45 PM

Trump: The UK is in denial about its "Muslim problem"
"The United Kingdom is trying hard to disguise their massive Muslim problem," he said, yet "everybody is wise to what is happening, very sad! Be honest"
Thank you to respected columnist Katie Hopkins for her powerful writing on the U.K.'s Muslim problems.

Would that be the cockroach comments?...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...news-live.html

Niamh. · 10-12-2015, 01:49 PM

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Trump: The UK is in denial about its "Muslim problem"
"The United Kingdom is trying hard to disguise their massive Muslim problem," he said, yet "everybody is wise to what is happening, very sad! Be honest"
Thank you to respected columnist Katie Hopkins for her powerful writing on the U.K.'s Muslim problems.

Would that be the cockroach comments?...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...news-live.html

Respected columnist? is he taking the piss now or what??

lostalex · 10-12-2015, 02:05 PM

He didn't even say ban all muslims forever... he said we should pause muslims coming in, until we have a way to tell which ones are the REAL muslims that actually believe in crazy muslim crap, and which ones are the normal human beings that just happen to be muslims.

obviously we don't have a problem with the normal human being muslims that don't actually believe in crazy muslim crap, but we need a way to figure out which is which. that's all he's saying.

I agree that he didn't make himself clear enough though. He should have planned his words more carefully.

Kizzy · 10-12-2015, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

He didn't even say ban all muslims forever... he said we should pause muslims coming in, until we have a way to tell which ones are the REAL muslims that actually believe in crazy muslim crap, and which ones are the normal human beings that just happen to be muslims.

obviously we don't have a problem with the normal human being muslims that don't actually believe in crazy muslim crap, but we need a way to figure out which is which. that's all he's saying.

I agree that he didn't make himself clear enough though. He should have planned his words more carefully.

Logically is this feasible?

lostalex · 10-12-2015, 02:16 PM

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Logically is this feasible?

under his leadership? no. i don't trust him to even wake up in the right bed every morning... but i assume some smart people who are good at logistics and statistics and organization and maths and stuff could work out a system. Hillary could sort it out.

Kizzy · 10-12-2015, 02:16 PM

Borats verdict

Youtube video

Northern Monkey · 10-12-2015, 02:16 PM

Why are people not eager to confront Trump with their counter arguments to his position rather than signing silly petitions to try and make him dissapear(He won't).If we are a democratic country then we should welcome him and debate with him.If he is in the wrong then he will come out of it looking worse and more than likely won't come back.Although i can't imagine that coming here will benefit him in any way in his campaign.I don't think shutting down debate helps anyone tbh.

lostalex · 10-12-2015, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Why are people not eager to confront Trump with their counter arguments to his position rather than signing silly petitions to try and make him dissapear(He won't).If we are a democratic country then we should welcome him and debate with him.If he is in the wrong then he will come out of it looking worse and more than likely won't come back.Although i can't imagine that coming here will benefit him in any way in his campaign.I don't think shutting down debate helps anyone tbh.

that's a good point.

Northern Monkey · 10-12-2015, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

that's a good point.

Thankyou sir

Cherie · 10-12-2015, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Why are people not eager to confront Trump with their counter arguments to his position rather than signing silly petitions to try and make him dissapear(He won't).If we are a democratic country then we should welcome him and debate with him.If he is in the wrong then he will come out of it looking worse and more than likely won't come back.Although i can't imagine that coming here will benefit him in any way in his campaign.I don't think shutting down debate helps anyone tbh.

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Thankyou sir

You should be thanking me for making the point that you copied

Cherie · 10-12-2015, 02:35 PM

I just read the title as ban Muslims from entering us

Northern Monkey · 10-12-2015, 02:39 PM

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You should be thanking me for making the point that you copied

Oh i don't think i read that

Great minds....

kirklancaster · 10-12-2015, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Why are people not eager to confront Trump with their counter arguments to his position rather than signing silly petitions to try and make him dissapear(He won't).If we are a democratic country then we should welcome him and debate with him.If he is in the wrong then he will come out of it looking worse and more than likely won't come back.Although i can't imagine that coming here will benefit him in any way in his campaign.I don't think shutting down debate helps anyone tbh.

Because the ones behind this crap 'Petition' are not interested in debating Trump - they are merely seeking to make political capital out of his gaffes to elicit more sympathy for their Islamic cause.

the truth · 10-12-2015, 02:44 PM

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Because the ones behind this crap 'Petition' are not interested in debating Trump - they are merely seeking to make political capital out of his gaffes to elicit more sympathy for their Islamic cause.

100% right again....where were these 300,000 people when the hate preachers were on the streets of London demanding they bomb the west?

the truth · 10-12-2015, 03:42 PM

trump is a brilliant businessman and pretty eccentric showman....but he doesn't need to bother running for the oval office, yes its part ego but its also because hes a workaholic and hes a patriot....his mslim plan is clearly absurd. but at least he has the balls the speak on the subject which has seen 32000 innocent people killed by radical Islamic terrorists in the last year. were too scared to even patrol and protect our borders in Europe , which in turn makes the work of the police and intelligence almost impossible....celebrate the fact that a man is still able to have some freedom of speech, because in a few years time all free speech will be finished forever

empire · 10-12-2015, 04:42 PM

the problem is that in europe and america, the left wing elite, are so disconnected and out of touch, with their electorates, in are case, even more so because of the electoral system that allows minority parties to govern with an absolute majority, trump may be wrong in some of his solutions, but he is right to raise questions and debate the issues out in the open, ask the french people in calais, where the two main parties, tell the people too put up, and shut up, and they seem to turn a blind eye to the problem, intruth, trump is not putting himself in power, it is the soft pandering that is doing it for him, we can't keep going to the soft road, so that people can live in this country, and hate are values and culture, and expecting everyone to pander to their way of life,

GiRTh · 10-12-2015, 05:26 PM

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Even Dick 'Darth' Cheney, I think we would all agree, a truly evil man thinks Trump's idea is terrible.

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