[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..there should never be any private in a conversation finding amusement in sexual assault with someone who is striving to be a world leader...it's of public interest because votes are made on character and integrity of a person as well as other reasons...with the starring role he's hoping to get, there comes responsibility of power but he talks about power/influence in a way that he abuses it, not a way that he lives up to it...his responsibility would be to respect all of his US citizens equally regardless of their gender...


..I was thinking yesterday of how we all have or have had people in our lives/males specifically...granddads/dads/uncles etc who would describe themselves as 'old fashioned' and a big part of that is respect in how they speak to or speak about females...because back in the day you know, that was us....no one of any character ever said the words that he did../would ever have found such the topic of amusement...at the very least and the very best, he's an extremely weak person in feeling he needed to 'impress the ladz' by laughing about sexual assault.../worrying either way tbh...and disrespectful to all genders if he feels that he's representative with his views of some sort of acceptable locker room banter...

I was thinking the same thing about my grandad when I was reading some comments the other day. He's in his 80's and he worships the ground my grandma walks on, he talks about her and treats her like she's the most wonderful person in the world and it's something that's always stuck with me and makes me smile when I think about them. It would be unimaginable that he'd ever think or say those kinds of things and he'd be repulsed by Trump's attitude. Honestly it annoys me when Trump's age is used as a defense for him. Things haven't always been great for women politically/socially etc and I think that's the reason age is a go-to excuse for stuff, and I think it's easy to disassociate yourself with a time period if you haven't lived it, but like you suggest, respect, love, decency, they aren't knew concepts that we've just invented, they're pretty basic human traits.

Originally Posted by Ammi

...could you imagine if there was a taped conversation in a school staffroom or something and teachers saying..oh, I just slap those children or whatever...the outrage and how worrying that would be../how rightfully worried parents would be who had their children at that school and also of general public concern as well if in thinking that may be representative of schools and their teaching staff/the carers of their children...and yet Trump is looking to be representative of the whole of the USA...of course, the man he is, is of huge importance...

Yeah again I completely agree, I can't fathom the attitude of "he didn't mean for it to be public so just ignore it" at all.

Imagine a criminal defense in court "Well your honour, he burgled the house late at night, dressed in black, even wore a balaclava. He obviously didn't want to be seen so it's unfair to judge him, this is a private matter between him and his victim."

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..there should never be any private in a conversation finding amusement in sexual assault with someone who is striving to be a world leader...it's of public interest because votes are made on character and integrity of a person as well as other reasons...with the starring role he's hoping to get, there comes responsibility of power but he talks about power/influence in a way that he abuses it, not a way that he lives up to it...his responsibility would be to respect all of his US citizens equally regardless of their gender...


..I was thinking yesterday of how we all have or have had people in our lives/males specifically...granddads/dads/uncles etc who would describe themselves as 'old fashioned' and a big part of that is respect in how they speak to or speak about females...because back in the day you know, that was us....no one of any character ever said the words that he did../would ever have found such the topic of amusement...at the very least and the very best, he's an extremely weak person in feeling he needed to 'impress the ladz' by laughing about sexual assault.../worrying either way tbh...and disrespectful to all genders if he feels that he's representative with his views of some sort of acceptable locker room banter...

why do women laugh about mens penises being sliced off then on the likes of loose women? how is that ok? and that actually happened

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

why do women laugh about mens penises being sliced off then on the likes of loose women? how is that ok? and that actually happened

It isn't ok and luckily whoever said that isn't running for President of any country

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by the truth

why do women laugh about mens penises being sliced off then on the likes of loose women? how is that ok? and that actually happened

..it really isn't any source of amusement for any sexual assault or any violence no matter what the gender...

[Jack_]

lol at how Mark Burnett of all people has now been dragged into this election

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37617068

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Jack_

lol at how Mark Burnett of all people has now been dragged into this election

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37617068

"As a producer on seasons one and two I assure you: when it comes to the Trump tapes there are far worse."

But they're not 'able' to release them

I think things like that should have to be released, in the interests of openness and the public being able to make an informed choice when voting. His character and the type of person he is is important imo. And isn't one of the appeals of Trump the idea that he'd be a 'change' to the usual political system? Beginning that change with cover-ups is a great start!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

"As a producer on seasons one and two I assure you: when it comes to the Trump tapes there are far worse."

But they're not 'able' to release them

I think things like that should have to be released, in the interests of openness and the public being able to make an informed choice when voting. His character and the type of person he is is important imo. And isn't one of the appeals of Trump the idea that he'd be a 'change' to the usual political system? Beginning that change with cover-ups is a great start!

...could you imagine if there was a taped conversation in a school staffroom or something and teachers saying..oh, I just slap those children or whatever...the outrage and how worrying that would be../how rightfully worried parents would be who had their children at that school and also of general public concern as well if in thinking that may be representative of schools and their teaching staff/the carers of their children...and yet Trump is looking to be representative of the whole of the USA...of course, the man he is, is of huge importance...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

"As a producer on seasons one and two I assure you: when it comes to the Trump tapes there are far worse."

But they're not 'able' to release them

I think things like that should have to be released, in the interests of openness and the public being able to make an informed choice when voting. His character and the type of person he is is important imo. And isn't one of the appeals of Trump the idea that he'd be a 'change' to the usual political system? Beginning that change with cover-ups is a great start!

I detest this type of thing. The; 'I just want to tell you Kirk that one of your close friends has told me you shag dead pigs, but I won't tell you who it is who said it" syndrome.

Either put up and PROVE what you are alleging, or fecking SHUT UP and say nothing in the first place.

It is wholly unfair to Trump - or any one else - for someone to come out with such statements that there is "much worse" to come, but then say that the 'proof' cannot ever be presented.

It is nothing more than indictment without a trial or evidence.

Unfair and frankly worthless.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I detest this type of thing. The; 'I just want to tell you Kirk that one of your close friends has told me you shag dead pigs, but I won't tell you who it is who said it" syndrome.

Either put up and PROVE what you are alleging, or fecking SHUT UP and say nothing in the first place.

It is wholly unfair to Trump - or any one else - for someone to come out with such statements that there is "much worse" to come, but then say that the 'proof' cannot ever be presented.

It is nothing more than indictment without a trial or evidence.

Unfair and frankly worthless.

It was Livia who told me

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It was Livia who told me

YOU are a scamp too Niamh. (Ammi will explain)

[user104658]

Just as a side issue here: did this incident prompt anyone else to Google whether on not it is physically possible for someone to be picked up by the vagina?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Just as a side issue here: did this incident prompt anyone else to Google whether on not it is physically possible for someone to be picked up by the vagina?

No just the weirdos

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No just the weirdos

Google doesn't even have an answer, which is a first.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Google doesn't even have an answer, which is a first.

Things are bad when you ask a question that even google won't answer

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Google doesn't even have an answer, which is a first.

TS will now appear in googles search statistics as the only person on the planet to have asked that question of it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

TS will now appear in googles search statistics as the only person on the planet to have asked that question of it

Not true. Many have sought the same answers as I, only to be left wondering.

[Maru]

Just saw this tonight, so I thought I'd add it here as an update...

More questionable footage of Trump's comments on women
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-une...r-in-10-years/

In the clip, Trump asks one of the girls if she’s “going up the escalator.” When the girl replies, “yeah,” Trump turns to the camera and says: “I am going to be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?”

Oh yeah, a real joker Maybe it was a witty spin on the whole escalator situation? Get it? A woman making it to the top?... ha ha....