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[The paper's main story is an exclusive about a potential upcoming documentary on Lucy Letby, the British nurse who was sentenced to 15 whole life terms after being convicted of killing seven babies and trying to kill seven more. Sources tell the Mirror that Netflix is "working with production company ITN" to deliver it.] ![]() Last edited by arista; 01-09-2024 at 06:51 AM. |
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Netflix going to expose our NHS and Judicial system. This is going to be juicy.
If it can happen to Lucy it’s can happen to us. If it can happen to those poor babies it can happen to our babies. Time to expose the true evil in this country! |
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Flag shagger.
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The NHS is a mess on every level. It's prime for both crimes and mistakes to happen. I do not trust the NHS and that's a sad thing for a Brit to say.
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Whole thing still stinks of scapegoating for massive systemic failures. In my opinion.
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Looks like a miscarriage of justice
Lucy Letby's lawyers and an independent panel of medical experts have presented "new medical evidence" in the case of the killer nurse that they say casts doubt on her conviction. https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=299...ANNTA1&PC=LCTS
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Dan Wootton @DANwootton
Many people will not want to hear this, but I repeat after months of my own research... LUCY LETBY IS INNOCENT AND HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISCARRIAGES OF JUSTICE IN BRITISH HISTORY. I know how difficult this is to accept because it smashes your trust in the NHS, MSM and UK judiciary. But that is the reality. https://x.com/danwootton/status/1886739523561779464 |
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Lucy Letby did not murder a single baby, experts have claimed.
Presenting “significant new medical evidence” in the case of the convicted killer, a panel of experts in the care of newborn babies alleged that they had died as a result of the poor care they had received. On Tuesday, analysis conducted by a committee of 14 neonatologists was revealed at a press conference in central London. Letby, 35, from Hereford, is serving 15 whole-life orders for the murder of seven infants and attempted murder of seven others at the Countess of Chester Hospital between June 2015 and June 2016. But Dr Shoo Lee, a Canadian neonatologist whose work was cited by the prosecution in the original trial, was critical of the care received by the babies and told the hearing that his work had been misinterpreted and misused by the Crown Prosecution Service. “In our opinion, the medical opinion, the medical evidence doesn’t support murder in any of these babies – just natural causes and bad medical care.” During the hearing, Dr Lee talked through a number of the babies and listed failings in the care provided to them or natural causes. In one case, he said doctors had failed to spot a dangerous bacterial infection in one baby, who later died, saying it was a “preventable death”. The Telegraph
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well this is turning into a sh1t show and no mistake
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Hands off my Brick!
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Jesus, how awful for her if that's true. What a thing to be wrongly convicted of
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self-oscillating
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it's one of those situations that you just don't know how to react. The original trial jury must have been convinced by the evidence that was presented to them, what has changed now. I don't think anything has changed
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I thought they found some sort of diary she kept where she wrote messages of her guit and evil behaviour?..
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The guy whose work was cited to convict her says his research was misinterpreted and he believes the babies died due to issues on the ward not down to one single person, Lucy Letby had previously highlighted issues on the ward as well
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Peter Hitchens has been on this from the start saying its a travesty of justice
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The whole case is a mess and even more of a mess if you start delving into healthcare politics, particularly the culture of doctors blaming other staff to avoid criticism, or outright punitively.
I think there's a decent chance that not only did Letby not murder those children, it's likely that no one did, and they died because of systemic issues and medical negligence. She was whistleblowing about various consultants being lazy, hardly ever turning up in person to do the checks they should have been doing, under-resourcing, under-staffing, babies were dying unnecessarily. The doctors openly disliked her for "kicking up fuss" and then all of a sudden she's being charged with murder. If it turns out to be anything resembling that, the implications are massive. I in fact don't even think they intended to frame her for murder - I think they started saying "She's always on shift when things go wrong" (which has been since shown to not even be true) in the hopes that she'd be investigated as dangerously incompetent and struck off the nursing register because they wanted rid of her. But then authorities started sniffing around it questioning if it was intentional - and in fear for their own jobs, they doubled-down and started presenting things in a way that would make sure the gaze stayed on her. It was a jury trial and so the opinions of both judge and jury were informed mostly by expert opinion and circumstantial evidence, not hard evidence... and the expert opinions were fudged from the start - in some cases have now been all but proven to be inaccurate or plainly wrong. My genuine belief is that this or something close to this is what has happened here and really all it comes down to now is whether or not it will blow wide open, or be rapidly swept under the rug because of the massive political implications. Last edited by user104658; 04-02-2025 at 05:43 PM. |
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This is awful if it does end up being a miscarriage of justice. For her having been locked up for it and also for the families of the babies who died, they thought they had a little bit of justice for the loss of their children and been through harrowing court cases and all for what? It will be a very dark day if it's all been for nothing
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The compensation for the medical negligence alone would be huge, never mind a miscarriage of justice if that is what we are looking at
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