[Alf]

Originally Posted by Saph

its not making everyone miserable? only those close minded enough to think this sort of 'joke' is still funny

Calling somebody close minded for their opinions is an insult, do you think you should fired from your job for that?

[Saph]

Originally Posted by Alf

Calling somebody close minded for their opinions is an insult, do you think you should fired from your job for that?

for the average person, being fired would probably be a bit much, but for someone in the public eye, nobody is gonna wanna be associated with you after making prejudiced remarks/jokes ...look what happened to Rosanne

[Liam-]

I’ll take progression over living in an age where it’s deemed acceptable to be openly racist

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I’ll take progression over living in an age where it’s deemed acceptable to be openly racist

But the fact is, you live in one of the most tolerant, least racist countries on Earth.

My guess is that you will only accept racism from White people.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Alf

But the fact is, you live in one of the most tolerant, least racist countries on Earth.

My guess is that you will only accept racism from White people.

Incorrect, I don’t accept racism from anyone, I personally think there is no place in modern society for racists or bigots, of any colour or background

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Incorrect, I don’t accept racism from anyone, I personally think there is no place in modern society for racists or bigots, of any colour or background

Easy to say.

[Tom4784]

I''ve said it before and I'll say it again.

Freedom of speech is not a shield to protect you from criticism or from consequences of your actions. Danny Baker losing his job because he put out a racist tweet is not infringing on his freedom of speech, He can tweet racist jokes all he wants but that doesn't mean he can't be criticised or that his employers can't take exception to his actions and disassociate with him. He's still free to be racist as much as he wants to but everyone else is free to react to it.

I'm so tired of the whole 'poor little racist' routine, they bring it on themselves by considering people lesser if they have a different colour skin to them. If you're going to be openly racist, you've got to be prepared for the consequences and as someone who works in the public eye, this arsehole should have known better.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I''ve said it before and I'll say it again.

Freedom of speech is not a shield to protect you from criticism or from consequences of your actions. Danny Baker losing his job because he put out a racist tweet is not infringing on his freedom of speech, He can tweet racist jokes all he wants but that doesn't mean he can't be criticised or that his employers can't take exception to his actions and disassociate with him. He's still free to be racist as much as he wants to but everyone else is free to react to it.

I'm so tired of the whole 'poor little racist' routine, they bring it on themselves by considering people lesser if they have a different colour skin to them. If you're going to be openly racist, you've got to be prepared for the consequences and as someone who works in the public eye, this arsehole should have known better.

He didn't take any actions, he spoke his mind.

[Daniel-X]

Originally Posted by Alf

He didn't take any actions, he spoke his mind.

Stop splitting hairs, you know excatly what Dezzy was saying. He knew exactly what he was doing in the hope of a few cheap laughs from some people still stuck with racist mind sets. It’s grotesque.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Daniel-X

Stop splitting hairs, you know excatly what Dezzy was saying. He knew exactly what he was doing in the hope of a few cheap laughs from some people still stuck with racist mind sets. It’s grotesque.

So even you admit that his only intention here is trying to get laughs. Why is trying to make people laugh, wrong?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

So even you admit that his only intention here is trying to get laughs. Why is trying to make people laugh, wrong?

Alf... if you were walking along in a muddy field and someone deliberately tripped you up and you went face first into a pile of cow muck, I'd hazard a guess that there are PLENTY of people in the world who would laugh. Even if you knocked out a tooth or bust your nose - some people would laugh.

Is a person doing that to you OK because he was just trying to make people laugh?

Let's make it even more extreme: You're walking down the street and some kid, trying to make his friends laugh / impress them, sucker punches you square in the side of the head. What do you do? Do you say "Ahh the little scamp was only trying to make his friends laugh!" and forget about it?

Because that seems to be your logic here. That any comment or action is fine, even if it hurts some people, so long as it was done with the intention of making other people laugh .

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

He didn't take any actions, he spoke his mind.

And he's free to do that and the BBC are free to not employ him for it as he's stirred up a scandal.

All opinions have consequences, all opinions can cause a reaction. If you're going to post a racist tweet then you better be prepared for it to rightfully blow up in your face. You're free to speak your mind and anyone else is free to take action too, whether that's blocking you or firing you for bringing bad press attention to their door.

The problem is that you basically want selective freedom of speech. You want freedom of speech without the right of response and that's not freedom of speech.

[Twosugars]

He can go and work for some alt right media. Infowars or Breitbart could have him. He can exercise his free racist speech there, BBC has standards

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He can go and work for some alt right media. Infowars or Breitbart could have him. He can exercise his free racist speech there, BBC has standards

Oh come on. You can't seriously compare someone posting a silly misjudged joke to the likes of Infowars and Brietbart.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Oh come on. You can't seriously compare someone posting a silly misjudged joke to the likes of Infowars and Brietbart.

It is a career option now open to him

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

It is a career option now open to him

danny Baker (born 22 June 1957) is an English comedy writer, journalist, radio DJ and ..... Baker has been a lifelong Labour Party activist. In May 2017, Baker endorsed Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn in the 2017 UK general election.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

danny Baker (born 22 June 1957) is an English comedy writer, journalist, radio DJ and ..... Baker has been a lifelong Labour Party activist. In May 2017, Baker endorsed Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn in the 2017 UK general election.

And yet there's this consensus of opinion on here that all the racists and bigots are on the Right. As the Americans might say, go figure....

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

danny Baker (born 22 June 1957) is an English comedy writer, journalist, radio DJ and ..... Baker has been a lifelong Labour Party activist. In May 2017, Baker endorsed Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn in the 2017 UK general election.

Of course being left or right has nothing to do with being racist, or saying/doing racist things. People are all individuals and accepting that bigotry is potentially universal should be a human acknowledgement. That said, no parties on the left actually gear themselves towards attracting racists and xenophobes and by the dehumanisation of refugees and immigrants.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He can go and work for some alt right media. Infowars or Breitbart could have him. He can exercise his free racist speech there, BBC has standards

He has also worked for Talk Sport Radio
after a while they may give him a job
just to get Publicity.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

He has also worked for Talk Sport Radio
after a while they may give him a job
just to get Publicity.

I can 100 per cent see him ending up there, which is great as I avoid that radio channel

[Twosugars]

Btw didn't know but he had been sacked by beeb before, for inciting violence.
Doubt he will get a third chance.

[arista]

[Cherie]

What is that thing he is wearing on his head

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What is that thing he is wearing on his head

A fez hat

[joeysteele]

He's just awful.
The BBC right to get rid of him.

This wasn't even funny and for him to try to say he didn't even know the Sussex's baby had just been born, is absolutely beyond belief.