[Samm]

Coronavirus: 38 days when Britain sleepwalked into disaster
Boris Johnson skipped five Cobra meetings on the virus, calls to order protective gear were ignored and scientists’ warnings fell on deaf ears. Failings in February may have cost thousands of lives

Article on Sunday Times: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...ster-hq3b9tlgh

Here's the full article (without the paywall): https://archive.is/20200418182037/ht...ster-hq3b9tlgh

If even the Sunday Times are criticising this government then you know they've ****ed this up, Giant expose into this government's major failings, they've cost the lives of over 15,000 people and probably more. If you read this and still have faith in our government's actions then I feel for you.

Thread about the article here;

More reactions here;

[Samm]

Boris to resign is now trending on Twitter;

[Saph]

drag ha!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Saph

drag ha!

Bitchy

[SherzyK]

Well said

Regardless of political stance, you can’t deny he’s been very negligent up until this point. The amount of lives that could have been saved had he acted sooner and not underestimated how lethal of a virus it was

[arista]

[Samm]

Originally Posted by arista

For once Piers Morgan talks a bit of sense

[arista]

same First name as our Mod

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

same First name as our Mod

It's not me I did know a Niamh Walsh though

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not me I did know a Niamh Walsh though

I know its just a Rare name.

[arista]

"Piers Morgan talks a bit of sense "


Yes back Live GMBHD itv
monday 6AM

[Liam-]

As much as I agree with everything that has been said, nothing will happen, Tories will never be held to account, especially not Boris,, he seems to have a hold over a demographic that see him as some sort of untouchable deity above reproach, someone else will be blamed for now, until it’s all over and they can lay the blame once again at the feet of the NHS like they always do.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

As much as I agree with everything that has been said, nothing will happen, Tories will never be held to account, especially not Boris,, he seems to have a hold over a demographic that see him as some sort of untouchable deity above reproach, someone else will be blamed for now, until it’s all over and they can lay the blame once again at the feet of the NHS like they always do.

Wise Words
Slick Liam.

He will blame his Science Advisers

[arista]

For Samm

[arista]

Live Debate now on LBC Radio.

[Brother Leon]

About time they got called out on the disaster show. Too long there’s been an “oh we can’t dare call out the government at this time” sentiment, which was a damn joke.

[MTVN]

I'm not sure this is as damaging a report as its being made out

This is an interesting thread by someone who has examined the minutes of meetings carried out by Nervtag - New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group - in Jan and Feb

Quite interesting to see the likes of Owen Jones - who has ranted against the Murdoch media for years - now swearing by their journalism. And as for what's trending on Twitter, that's always been completely disconnected with public opinion. I remember in the 2019 election Labour content and supporters totally dominated Twitter to the extent they thought they were going to come good on election day

I'm sure there will have been failings and mistakes made across numerous bodies - the government sure but also Sage, PHE etc - and they'll be able to be assessed in time. This desperation that we need to assign blame right now and get the pitchforks out is crazy though, as is the idea that our PM should resign right in the middle of the worst peacetime crisis in the last century - we need a stable government.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I'm not sure this is as damaging a report as its being made out

This is an interesting thread by someone who has examined the minutes of meetings carried out by Nervtag - New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group - in Jan and Feb

Quite interesting to see the likes of Owen Jones - who has ranted against the Murdoch media for years - now swearing by their journalism. And as for what's trending on Twitter, that's always been completely disconnected with public opinion. I remember in the 2019 election Labour content and supporters totally dominated Twitter to the extent they thought they were going to come good on election day

I'm sure there will have been failings and mistakes made across numerous bodies - the government sure but also Sage, PHE etc - and they'll be able to be assessed in time. This desperation that we need to assign blame right now and get the pitchforks out is crazy though, as is the idea that our PM should resign right in the middle of the worst peacetime crisis in the last century - we need a stable government.

For perspective. .

30th Jan the WHO declare a global public health emergency and boris addresses the nation on 31st about....brexit.

2nd March NERVTAG predict 500,000 deaths in a nation of 70 million, 3rd March boris addresses the nation to cheerfully boast about shaking hands with Covid patients in hospital.

That's the reality of the situation, it's wouldn't have mattered if the scientists had screamed in his ear with a megaphone. ..Boris does what boris wants.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

2nd March NERVTAG predict 500,000 deaths in a nation of 70 million, 3rd March boris addresses the nation to cheerfully boast about shaking hands with Covid patients in hospital.

To be fair - unless something DRASTICALLY changes, 500k deaths seems like a huge over-estimation at this point.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair - unless something DRASTICALLY changes, 500k deaths seems like a huge over-estimation at this point.

At which point.. this was the observations in late feb/ March from NERVTAG prior to lockdown. You might not agree but that's besides the point, I've heard of armchair psychology but armchair epidemiology?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

For perspective. .

30th Jan the WHO declare a global public health emergency and boris addresses the nation on 31st about....brexit.

2nd March NERVTAG predict 500,000 deaths in a nation of 70 million, 3rd March boris addresses the nation to cheerfully boast about shaking hands with Covid patients in hospital.

That's the reality of the situation, it's wouldn't have mattered if the scientists had screamed in his ear with a megaphone. ..Boris does what boris wants.

Maybe because we left the EU on the 31st Brexit was slightly relevant. At that time we had 2 cases in the UK

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Maybe because we left the EU on the 31st Brexit was slightly relevant. At that time we had 2 cases in the UK

And maybe it's because it's because he's a weak leader. If he wasn't he'd have realised that during a global pandemic we have more important things to worry about and we require relevant and up to date information on that?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

About time they got called out on the disaster show. Too long there’s been an “oh we can’t dare call out the government at this time” sentiment, which was a damn joke.

Sure Brother Leon
but what will change?

[Smithy]

Appalling that he didn’t even turn up to the Cobra meetings, hope your weekend breaks were worth the thousands of lives

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

As much as I agree with everything that has been said, nothing will happen, Tories will never be held to account, especially not Boris,, he seems to have a hold over a demographic that see him as some sort of untouchable deity above reproach, someone else will be blamed for now, until it’s all over and they can lay the blame once again at the feet of the NHS like they always do

All of this!